Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

Beyond Typus 11.5
zraith 6 Oct, 2018 @ 6:23am
Philippine Suggestion
This is a sugggestion for a Philippines overhaul in BT to increase the details of the provinces in the region based on the personal mod that I'm working on.

The suggestion will be broken up into 3 regions each covering a section of the Philippines due to the number of provinces added. These regions will be broken up into the proposed areas and then the provinces in the areas. Each province will detail the province name, capital, culture, etc...

Information that will not be included are native size/ferocity/hostileness as I haven't settled on the numbers. Native size will most likely range from 5 to 20 (500 to 2000) for native size. At this moment, country suggestions will not be included in this thread as they are still in the early draft stages.

A majority of the suggestions are based on information taken from wikipedia. Some of choices chosen are specualtive and used my personal judgement in determine capitals, terrain, etc...

General Overview
Pre-development doubling the Philippines is composed of 23 provinces and has a total of 158 development. With the development doubling this number goes up to 316 development.

The following suggestion adds 81 new provinces and increases development of the total Philippines region to 619 development (or 309.5 development pre-doubling). A total of 303 more development (151.5 pre-doubling) is added to the Philippines region, about 4 (3.74 to be exact) on average for each new province (1.87 in pre-doubling amount). This is a lot less, about a third less, than if all 81 provinces became 3 development provinces and then were doubled, which would have added 486 development to the region.

New Provinces: 81
Total provinces: 104
Added development: 303
Total development: 619

Due to the increase in provinces, I would suggest breaking Philippines off from The Moluccas (where it's currently in) and making it its own region similar to what was done with Ireland.

Link to province map: https://i.imgur.com/NNgaq9P.png
Link to area map: https://i.imgur.com/b2yM2Pm.png
Link to religion map: https://i.imgur.com/9bY1hfW.png
Link to terrain map: https://i.imgur.com/LxLSmuq.png
Link to culture map: https://i.imgur.com/d6mK1iY.png

Note on the culture map, the divisions are largely based on the divisions in the language classification. Even then there is some simplification such as Karaya standing in for the majority of the Western Visayan languages and Buataun-Tausug also includes the Surigao languages.

Luzon
Cagayan
Largely settled by tribal groups, the area still had regular contact with Indians, Chinese, Japanese and other East Asian nations based on the artifacts found in the area. The provinces in the area include the following:

1. Catagayan
Capital: Aparri
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Cagayan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Cagayan
Note: Catagayan is an old name of the area that was shortened to Cagayan. Aparri was chosen as the capital as it was established as a town in 1605, but prior to that it was a Japanese (which Daimyo not said) trading post home to the native Ibanag who were in an early form of an informal protectorate city-state.

2. Cagua
Capital: Gampao
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Cagayan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cagayan
Note: Named after a local volcano that is near the capital of the province, Gampao. Gampao was the first record name of the area; unknown when the name came into being, but might be in sometime in the 18th century or prior as Gampao is an Aeta word and they were displaced in the lowland areas by immigrants in the 18th century.

3. Ibanag
Capital: Bolo
Development: 3/2/1
Culture: Cagayan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Cagayan
Note: Named after local tribe living in the area. The capital is Bolo, native Gaddang name of the village, Ilagan, prior to Spanish conquest. Was founded under the Spanish in 1619 and then later in 1686.

4. Paranan
Capital: Palanan
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Cagayan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cagayan
Note: Named after a local tribe living in the area. Palanan was chosen as the capital as it is the only local major town/city in the area.

5. Kasiguranin
Capital: Casiguran
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cagayan
Note: Named after a local tribe/language group living/located in the area. Casiguran was founded by the Spanish in 1609.

6. Gaddang
Capital: Carig
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Cagayan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Cagayan
Note: Named after a local tribe living in the area. Carig is the original name of Santiago founded in 1743.

Cordillera
Settled mostly by tribal groupings, several provinces were home to sophisticated plutocracies that built impressive rice terraces. These terraces are believed to have been used for taro cultivation and was later replaced by rice around 1600.

7. Ifugao
Capital: Banaue
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Cordilleran
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: grain
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cordillera
Note: Home to a highland plutocracy. Chose Banaue as capital as it is home to several rice terraces.

8. Kankayan
Capital: Nangkayang
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Cordilleran
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Gold
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cordillera
Note: Named after local tribe in the area. Chose Nangkayang, the native name of Mankayan. Area was heavily forested and the natives mined gold.

9. Bontoc
Capital: Bontoc
Development: 2/4/1
Culture: Cordilleran
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cordillera
Note: Province named after local tribe/city. Area covers the area of the modern Mountain Province and is home to numerous rice terraces.

10. Kalinga
Capital: Tinglayan
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Cordilleran
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cordillera
Note: Named after local tribe living in the area and home to another highland plutocracy prior to Spanish conquest. Chose Tinglayan as capital as it is home to several rice terraces.

11. Isnag
Capital: Isnag
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Cordilleran
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Cordillera
Note: Named after local tribe in today's Apayao province. I left the capital as Isnag after the tribe, but alternative capitals could be Pudtol (Dominican friars established a mission there in 1610) or Kabugao (the friars tried again here in 1684).

Samtoy
Renowned for its gold mines, merchants from Japan and China would visit the area to trade gold with beads, ceramics and silk. The area was already a thriving, fairly advanced cluster of towns and settlements.

12. Yloco (Ilocos Norte)
Capital: Laoag
Development: 1/4/1
Culture: Ilocanos
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Samtoy (Ilocos)
Note: Laoag, the capital, was founded in 1580. Province name chosen as the archaic form of Iloko, name of the tribe living in the Samtoy (Ilocos) region

13. Itneg
Capital: Bangued
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Ilocano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Gold
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Samtoy (Ilocos)
Note: Named after a local tribe in today's Abra province. Bangued was established as a regular town in 1598. Another option as a capital could be Tineg due to rice terraces in the area (Salagpat Rice Terraces). Area is home to several rice terraces in the eastern parts of the province in Tubo (straddles Itneg and Kankayan in this suggestion), Bucloc, Daguioman, Sallapadan and Tineg.

14. Samtoy
Capital: Bee Gan (Vigan)
Development: 2/2/2
Culture: Ilocanos
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Samtoy (Ilocos)
Note: Named after the old name of the region that included the modern provinces of La Union, Abra, Ilocos Sur & Norte. This area was then converted to the Spanish to province of Ilocos in 1572. The capital, Bee Gan is the name given by the Chisese settlers/traders in the area, was recorded as Vigan by the Spanish. The town was said to be founded by the Spanish in 1572.

Pangasinan
Covers the majority of the area that was controlled by the Haungdom (Kingdom) of Caboloan (Luyag na Caboloan in native language).

15. Ibaloi
Capital: Takdang/Kibungan
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Pangasinan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Pangasinan
Note: Named after the local tribe in the area. Covers roughly the area of modern Benguet province which is home to numerous rice terraces. Capitals of the province could either be Takdang (former name of Kapangan) which is the location of 5 rice terraces (Balacbac, Amlangit, Pekaw, Noso and Catampan) or Kibungan the location of 7 rice terraces (Banaue, Palina, Kibungan, Les-eng, Batangan, Wallayan, Cuilang, Lanipew).

16. Caraballo
Capital: Pantabangan
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Pangasinan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Pangasinan
Note: Named after the local mountain range that covers most of the area of the province. The place where Pantabangan was discovered in 1645 by the Spanish and was officially included in the map of the Philippines in 1747.

17. Pangasinan
Capital: Binalatongan
Development: 3/6/2
Culture: Pangasinan
Religion: Mahayana Buddhism
Trade Good: Salt
Terrain: Grassland
Modifier:
Area: Pangasinan
Note: Switched the terrain to grassland as the marsh as I only found one mention of a marsh (Poponto Swamp) in the province and most of the province is flat. Used Binalatongan as the capital as it was the recorded capital of Caboloan and is the native Pangasinan name of San Carlos.

18. Zambales
Capital: Iba
Development: 2/3/2
Culture: Sambal
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Pangasinan
Note: Named the northern portion of Zambales that was controlled by Caboloan as Zambales and the southern part after a local tribe. Iba was founded in 1611 by the Order of Augustinian Recollect priests.

Pampanga
The name was historically applied to the modern provinces of Tarlac, Bataan, Zambales, Nueva Ecija and Bulacan.

19. Ayta
Capital: Hubek
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Sambal
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Pampanga
Note: Named after local aboriginal tribe in the area, could also be named as Bataan (southern part of this province) which was founded in 1754. Hubek, native Zambales name of the area of Subic, was founded in 1572 by the Spanish or in 1607 by Augustinian friars. Other possible capitals could be Abucay (founded in 1587), Mariveles (1578) or Moron [Morong] (named given in the 16th century). The Subic bay area is probably the best area for the capital as it is the most heavily settled area in modern times.

20. Pampanga
Capital: Macabebe
Development: 3/4/3
Culture: Kapampangan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Woods
Modifier:
Area: Pampanga
Note: Macabebe is considered to be one of the oldest and most important community in Pampanga.

21. Pinagpanaan
Capital: Ibon
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Pampanga
Note: Pinagpanaan is the indigenous name of Nueva Ecija area. Chose Ibon, old name of Gapan, as it is one of the earliest settled place in Pampanga. It was founded in the middle part of the 16th century; mentions of Gapan go far back as 1595. Cabanatuan was also considered, but it was mentioned that it was part of Gapan before it was seperated in 1750.

22. Mingan
Capital: Baler
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Cordilleran
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Pampanga
Note: Named after the mountains in the area, could also be called Agta after a local tribe in the area. Baler, the capital, was established in 1609 by Franciscan missionaries.

23. Bulacan
Capital: Li Han or Lihan
Development: 3/4/2
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Cotton
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Pampanga
Note: An old province mentioned by the Spanish in 1578. Lihan or Li Han is the ancient Chinese name of Malolos. It was settled sometime in the 10th century and was mentioned (that a "Li Han in the country of Mai") in Chinese records of Zhu fan zhi written by Zhao Rugua (Chau Ju-Kau), a Song dynasty official.

Luzon
Area could be called either Lusong/Lusung or Luzon (a derivity of Lusong) an old name of the Pasing river delta which was eventually used as the name of the entire island of Luzon.

24. Morong
Capital: Taytay
Development: 3/2/2
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Fish
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Luzon
Note: Covers roughly the area of modern Rizal. The area was split between the provinces of Tondo (Manila) and La Laguna before it was created into the province of Morong in 1853. I chose to create it as the propossed capital, Taytay, and the surrounding environs (including parts of the province of Seludong [Tondo later called Manila]) were part of a pre-Spanish political entity of Namayan. Chose the name Morong as the province name as it was called Morong prior to being changed to Rizal, but Namayan could work as well. The capital, Taytay, is said to be founded in 1578, but mentions of an Encomienda of Taytay being created go back to 1532.

25. Seludong
Capital: Maynilla/Tondo/Sapa/Manila
Development: 5/4/2
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism - changes later to Sunni
Trade Good: Chinaware
Terrain: Farmland
Modifier:
Area: Luzon
Note: Seludong (Saludong/Selurong) was used to denote Manila prior to Spanish colonization, though there are other mentions that this is not the case, but the name of a place in Borneo or Indonesia (though when google search, it directs you to Manila). Other possible names are Lusong (which gives credence to it being called Seludong and was said to refer to the Manila Bay area by the Portuguese), Tondo or Manila.

After the arrival and conquest by the Spanish the area was called first Tondo then Manila. The area encompases the Pasig River delta that was home to 4 big settlements (Tondo, Manila, Sapa [Santa Ana] and Pasig) with three of them being the capitals of different political entities. These were the 'Kingdoms' of Tondo and Namayan (capital was Sapa) and the Rajahnate of Maynila. Timeline of settlements being settled are as follows: Tondo (~900 AD), Sapa (~10-11th century), Pasig (established by 13th century) and Manila (possible settlement by ~1258, though it could be anywhere from the 13th to the 16th with it being established by the Sultanate of Brunei around 1500). Possible suggestion would be for a decision to be made for the capital to be changed depending on which political entity occupies the area.

26. Tangway
Capital: Kawit
Development: 2/3/1
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Farmland
Modifier:
Area: Luzon
Note: Tangway is the former name of the area of Cavite. Cavite was established by the Spanish in 1614. Kawit was chosen as the capital as it was the most thriving settlement in the area prior to the Spanish arriving. Also, pretty much all other major settlements in the area were part of its territory before being broken off from it.

27. Bombon
Capital: Balayan
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Sunni
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills/Grassland
Modifier:
Area: Luzon
Note: Bombon is the former name of Lake Taal which this province is name after. I've decided to split the province of Batangas, which itself was founded in 1581 by the Spanish, into two due to this exerpt:
'Taal Lake was once an inlet of nearby Balayan Bay, and was easily navigable from it. A series of major eruptions in the early 18th century battered the lakeside towns with earthquakes and volcanic debris. The activity culminated in 1754 with Taal Volcano's largest eruption that blocked Pansipit River with tephra, blocking the lake's sole outlet to the sea. This caused the waters to rise, eventually submerging several lakeside towns – the remnants of which are reportedly visible underwater to this day. Since the 1754 eruption, the surface elevation had risen from sea level to 5 metres (16 ft) above sea level, with the lake's once saline waters becoming freshwater after centuries of precipitation.'
The capital, Balayan, was founded in 1578, but appears to have existed earlier as there was mention that the area wasa used as a trading ground by Chinese traders dating back to the mid-14th century. The city was also the capital of a sultanate called Bon-bon that had control of areas of Mindoro, Cavite and parts of Manila (modern provinces).

28. Kumintang
Capital: Lipa
Development: 3/4/2
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Woods
Modifier:
Area: Luzon
Note: The eastern half of the modern province of Batangas. Kumintang was the old name for the area of Batangas. The capital Lipa, is said to have been founded in 1702, but there are mentions of the area being settled prior to that date as far back as sometime between the 10th and 13th century by Malay people. Earlier settlment by the aboriginals of the Philippines, collectively called Negritos, could push this date further back, but that is an assumption.

29. Puliran
Capital: Ba-i
Development: 4/6/2
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Grain
Terrain: Farmland
Modifier:
Area: Luzon
Note: The name for the Laguna province area is the old pre-Spanish name of either Puliran Kasumuran (Laguna Copperplate Inscription c.900 AD) or Pulilan (Vocabulario de la Lengua Tagala c.1613). The capital for the province could either be Ba-i (old spelling of the city of Bay, which is a very old settlement and one of the oldest in Laguna with the earliest Spanish account being in 1572, but the area was settled as far back as the 9th century) or Sampalok (an old name of the San Paplo area and supposedly one of the richest villages in pre-Spanish times).

Kaliraya
Chose the name of the area after the first name that it was called.

30. Bantilan
Capital: Lampon
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Sambal
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Kaliraya
Note: Province is named after a nearby river as I couldn't find another name for the area that wasn't already used by other area. The capital of Lampon is the old name of modern Infanta.

31. Tayabas
Capital: Tayabas
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest/Hills
Modifier:
Area: Kaliraya
Note: Named after the city of Tayabas, which was used as a name for the area as well. Tayabas itself was founded in 1578 by the Spanish, but the area was already settled by native Philippines prior to Spanish arrival.

32. Marinduque
Capital: Boac
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Hanunoo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Kaliraya
Note: Not much of note for the establishment of this province, it was a constituent Batangas in the 16th century, Mindoro in the 17th century. Boac was established as a visita in 1580 under the name Monserrat de Marinduque.

33. Kalilayan
Capital: Kalilayan
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Tagalog
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Kaliraya
Note: Named after the city of Kalilayan (the old name of modern Unisan) that was used as a name for the area as well. The modern province of Quezon was originally called Kalilayan (or Calilaya as alternate spelling), but later changed to Tayabas in 1901 (but shows up in a map from 1852) before changing again to Quezon in 1946. The capital was founded as early as 1521 by Malayan settlers, but could have been earlier.

Camarines
Area was established as early as 1579 and constituted the northwest division of the Bikol province.

34. Camarines
Capital: Daet
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Bicolano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Gold
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Camarines
Note: Daet was a settled community when it was discovered by Magellan in 1521. Gold was discovered in the area in 1571 by the Spanish with a large gold mine being established in Paracale in 1626.

35. Ragay
Capital: Pasacao
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Bicolano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Camarines
Note: Chose to name the area after the gulf that it borders. Pasacao was a startegic defense Spanish port and only port for the Bicol region as early as 1585.

36. Bicol
Capital: Naga
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Aeta
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Camarines
Note: Named after the Bicol river that runs through the province, could also be called Isarog after a major volcano in the province. The province capital could either be Naga (founded in 1575, given a royal city-charter in 1595 and became the seat of the new bishopric of Caceres [which became part of the municipality of Naga]. Naga was the native village while Nueva Caceres was the Spanish city in the area) or Calabanga which was founded in 1578 under the name of Quipayo (name of the parish) and became Calabanga in 1756.

Ibalon
The southeast division of a single province that encompassed the entire Bikol peninsula. It became it's own province in around 1636.

37. Catanduanes
Capital: Virac
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Bicolano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Ibalon
Note: The island was first called Isla de Cobos in 1573, but was later changed to Catanduanes at a later undetermined date (a map from 1734 shows the island beign called Catanduanes). The capital Virac was founded by the Spanish in 1775, but the area was already settled by Malay settlers as early was the 13th century.

38. Ibat
Capital: Sawangan
Development: 2/1/1
Culture: Bicolano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Ibalon
Note: Area was called Ibat then Bogli, before Spanish arrival. The province of Albay is an old one being established in 1574. Sawangan was the fishing settlement that became Legazpi (possibly also the town of Albay based on maps, this is a personal speculation). Legazpi served as an achorage for ships sailing to Mexico in the latter part of the 16th century.

39. Ibalong
Capital: Parina
Development: 2/3/2
Culture: Bisakol
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Ibalon
Note: Named the province after the village/town that was later adopted as the name of the region. Parina was the settlement that would later become Magallanes and was already settled when the Spanish arrived and founded it in 1567.

40. Masbate
Capital: Masbate
Development: 4/4/2
Culture: Bisakol
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Ibalon
Note: The island is home to some of the oldest settlements in the Philippines with some areas (Batungan in Mandaon and Bagumbayan in Palanas) being major sites during the Bronze Age (4000-1000 BC). The capital, Masbate, was founded by the Spanish in 1569

Palawan
The Spanish refered to the island as Paragua.

41. Mantalingajan
Capital: Bataraza
Development: 3/2/1
Culture: Palawano
Religion: Sunni
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Palawan
Note: Named after a mountain in the area or could be called Balabac which was used as a name for an old administrative district by the Spanish.

42. Paragua
Capital: Tagbanwa
Development: 2/3/1
Culture: Palawano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Palawan
Note: Named it after what the Spanish called the island. The capital is named after a local tribe in the area.

43. Talindak
Capital: Taytay
Development: 2/2/2
Culture: Karay
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Palawan
Note: The province is named after the village of Talindak located in the El Nido area which was used as a trading location, otherwise it could be named Taytay after the Kingdom of Taytay that was in the area. The El Nido area (northern part of Taytay) was mentioned in Chinese records as far back as 1225 as a trading spot for merchants. The capital, Taytay, was founded by the Spanish in 1623, but prior to this it was the capital of the Kingdom of Taytay.

44. Calamian
Capital: Coron
Development: 2/3/1
Culture: Calamian
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Palawan
Note: Named after the Calamian islands that make up the province. The capital is named after the island & city of Coron or Calis as it is known by the Calamian Tagbanwas.

Ma-it
Pre-colonial name of Mindoro.

45. Hanuno'o
Capital: Mangarin or Pandurucan
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Mindoro
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Mindoro
Note: Named the province after a local tribe in the area. The province name can either be Mangarin, an old name of the area of San Jose by Chinese traders or Pandurucan, an old name of San Jose, said to be from pre-colonial times. Unsure which is which, but on a 1754 map of the Philippines, Mangarin is the one that is shown.

46. Iraya
Capital: Mamburao
Development: 2/1/1
Culture: Mindoro
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Mindoro
Note: Named after a local tribe in the area. Mamburao was said to be founded in 1955, but there are mentions of it being raiding by the Spanish and that it was conquered by the Spanish in 1560. The city was originally settled by Moro (Islamic) people.

47. Alangan
Capital: Calapan
Development: 2/1/1
Culture: Mindoro
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Marsh
Modifier:
Area: Mindoro
Note: Named after a local tribe in the area. Calapan was chosen as a capital as it was the only city/municipality with history mention going back to 1733 when it is said that the District convent was transferred to Calapan in 1733.

48. Tawbuid
Capital: Acliang
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Mindoro
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Mindoro
Note: Named after a local tribe in the area. Acliang was chosen as the capital as it is the only village/town that is near or in the area that this province covers.
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Visaya
Largely settled by centralized political entities with some city-states and tribal groupings.

Panay

49. Donblon
Capital: Romblon
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Bisakol
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Ananipay (Panay)
Note: Province name is what was reported by Spanish chronicler Miguel de Loarca in his book Relacion de las Islas Filipinas in 1582 which then later became Romblon. In the same place it said that the name evolved from Nagalumyom to Lomlom to Donblon to Romblon. The capital, Romblon was founded as an encomienda in 1571, but was settled earlier than that.

50. Akean
Capital: Batan
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Karay
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Slaves/Honey & Wax/
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Ananipay (Panay)
Note: Akean is the original name of the territories of Aklan and Capiz. The Capiz page has no mention of Aklean at all and only shows up on the Aklan page. The capital is Batan, which is said to have been the seat of government of Akean in 1433. It is also one of the oldest towns in Aklan. Another potential capital is Majanos/Madjanos (modern Numancia) which was said to be the capital of Akean.

51. Kapid
Capital: Capiz
Development: 2/3/1
Culture: Hiligaynon
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Cotton
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Ananipay (Panay)
Note: Capiz was declared an encomienda by the Spanish in 1716. It was used in a 1852 map to describe the areas of Aklan and Capiz. The capital is also Capiz (modern Roxas) which the province got its' name from. It was made an encomienda in 1569, but the area was already settled by that time.
'There are many versions on how Capiz got its name.The earliest version was that Balingangan, the eldest son of Bangkaya having risen to become the most powerful overlord of the Confederation of Madya-as, was gifted with beautiful twin daughters by his wife. He called the twins “Adlaw” and “Bulan” (Sun and Moon). To honor Balingangan and the twins, the land he ruled was called Aklan and Kapid (twins). How the d became z could be the Spaniards’ unique way of pronouncing the terminal d as th.

Another version was that the Barangay of Bangkaya was named Capiz after the shell called “Kapis” or “Pi-os” (a shell of the mollusk family)

The third tale was about the slim, elongated fish which the natives called “lapis”. Queried on the name of the fish, the Spaniards could have heard c instead of l and henceforth the land where this fish abounds was called “Capiz”.

And thus having achieved this sobriquet through a series of linguistic misadventures, Capiz emerged the capital of the province upon the decline of the town of Pan-ay, Capiz, later to be called Roxas City, became the premier town of the province and its spiritual, commercial, educational, and political center.

Source:
Yearbook, Circulo Galante 1982, Roxas City'

From the government website of Capiz:
'It is said that in Capiz in 1570, the Datu Bankaya’s wife of the Aklan district gave birth to twin daughters. Twin is "Kapid" in the local dialect, so the Spaniards adopted the name Capiz (Kapid) as inadvertently miscommunicated to them by the natives.

Capiz, which was part of Aklan in pre-Spanish times, was one of the early settlements of the Malays, centuries before the coming of the Spaniards to the Philippines. It was part of the Confederation of Madjaas, formed after the purchase of Panay by the Bornean datus from the Negrito king named Marikudo.'

52. Hantik
Capital: Bugasong
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Karay
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Fish
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Ananipay (Panay)
Note: Hantik is the original name of the area before it became Antique. It was one of three provinces of Madja-as. The capital Malandong (located in Hamtic) was the first settlement started by Malay colonizers that arrived to Panay and started the Kedatuan of Madja-as and is the oldest settlement in the province. Another possible capital is Bugasong as it is mentioned as the capital of the province in another article.

53. Irong-Irong
Capital: Ogtong
Development: 4/5/3
Culture: Hiligaynon
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Timber
Terrain: Woods
Modifier:
Area: Ananipay (Panay)
Note: Irong-Irong is an old name of Iloilo and is one of the three province of Madja-as. The capital of this province that I can determine was Iloilo. Ohter potential places are Ogtom/Ogtong (Oton) or Araut (Dumangas). Ogtom is mentioned as the capital of the province in another article. Ogtom was also the colonial center of the Spanish on the island until it was moved eastward to Arevalo (district of Iloilo) in 1581.
'In Panay, the existence of highly developed and independent principalities of Ogtong (Oton) and Araut (Dumangas) was well known to early Spanish settlers in the Philippines. The Augustinian historian Gaspar de San Agustin, for example, wrote about the existence of an ancient and illustrious nobility in Araut, in his book Conquistas de las Islas Filipinas (1565–1615). He said: "También fundó convento el Padre Fray Martin de Rada en Araut- que ahora se llama el convento de Dumangas- con la advocación de nuestro Padre San Agustín...Está fundado este pueblo casi a los fines del río de Halaur, que naciendo en unos altos montes en el centro de esta isla (Panay)...Es el pueblo muy hermoso, ameno y muy lleno de palmares de cocos. Antiguamente era el emporio y corte de la más lucida nobleza de toda aquella isla." Gaspar de San Agustin, O.S.A., Conquistas de las Islas Filipinas (1565-1615), Manuel Merino, O.S.A., ed., Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientificas: Madrid 1975, pp. 374-375.'

Buglas
Buglas is what the modern named Negros island was called by natives.

54. Mandalagan
Capital: Carobcob
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Hiligaynon
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: (by event change to Sugar)
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Buglas (Negros)
Note: Named after a volcano in the province. The province is Carobcob (Silay) which was settled in 1565 and granted encomienda in 1571.

55. Kanlaon
Capital: Binalbagan
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Hiligaynon
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: (by event change to Sugar)
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Buglas (Negros)
Note: Named after the Kanlaon volcano near by. The capital is Binalbagan one of two earliest native settlements which became town, Binalbagan in 1572.

56. Hilabangan
Capital: Ilog
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Hiligaynon
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Copper/Gold
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Buglas (Negros)
Note: Named after the river that surrounds Ilog. Ilog is the capital and is the one of two earliest native settlements which became towns, Ilog in 1584. It was made the capital of the island in 1743.

57. Balinsasayao
Capital: Dananguet
Development: 2/1/1
Culture: Cebuano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Buglas (Negros)
Note: Named after 2 lakes that contain the headwaters of 5 major river systems in the area. The capital is Dananguet (Dumaguete) which was mentioned in 1572 by cartographer Pedro Murillo Velarde.

Cebu
Named after the city of Cebu.

58. Sialo
Capital: Sialao
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Sugbuanon (Cebuano)
Religion: Hindu
Trade Good: Fish
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Cebu
Note: One of two regions/lands mentioned in the history of the Rajahnate of Cebu. Located in the southern parts of Cebu, centered around the present-day towns of Carcar and Santander. Sialao is the name that Carcar was known by prior to Spanish colonization.

59. Signhapala
Capital: Sugbu
Development: 4/5/3
Culture: Sugbuanon (Cebuano)
Religion: Hindu
Trade Good: Gems
Terrain: Hills
Modifier: Center of Trade [lv.1] (Sugbu/Cebu was an important port/trade location)
Area: Cebu
Note: Province is named after an ancient fortified city or region that was the capital of the Rajahnate of Cebu. I decided to think of it as the name of a region instead of a city. Sugbu is the ancient name of Cebu City.

60. Nahalin
Capital: Danao (Conquered by the Spanish in 1565; Extisted earlier to this date)
Development: 4/3/2
Culture: Sugbuanon (Cebuano)
Religion: Hindu
Trade Good: Naval Supplies (?); Original is Gems
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Cebu (Sugbu)
Note: One of two regions/lands mentioned in the history of the Rajahnate of Cebu. Located in the northern parts of Cebu, centered around the present-day towns of Consolacion, Liloan, Compostela, Danao, Carmen and Bantayan. Danao existed prior to the arrival of the Spanish and was conquered by them in 1565 and became an ecomienda in 1570.

61. Panglao
Capital: Tagbilaran
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Sugbuanon (Cebuano)
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Cebu (Sugbu)
Note: Named after the island right of the coast of Bohol that was a central part of the Kedatuan of Dapitan. The capital is Tagbilaran which was the place where the seat of power for the Kedatuan of Dapitan.

62. Eskaya
Capital: Talibong
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Sugbuanon (Cebuano)
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Cebu (Sugbu)
Note: Named after a local aboriginal tribe in the area. Talibong an earlier name of Talibon, was first visited by the Spanish in 1521. Father Juan de Torres, a Jesuit, founded the Baclayon Church in 1596 and as a missionary recorded in his travels that he visited the gold mines of Talibong.

Leyte

63. Seilani
Capital: Sugut
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Cebuano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Leyte
Note: Named after the domain which Sugut was said to be part of, this domain stretched from Bontoc and Sogod to the island of Panaon. Sugot is the old name of Sogod and it was a big town that Chinese junks came to trade at every year prior to Spanish arrival.

64. Leyte
Capital: Ogmoc
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Cebuano
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Leyte
Note: The capital can either be Baybay or Ogmoc, otherwise known as Ormor, which was founded in 1597 as a mission station.

65. Mairete
Capital: Kankabatok
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Waray
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Leyte
Note: Named after a political entity that was located on Leyte that was centered around the present-day city of Tacloban. It was the odlest city-state in the entire Eastern Visayas region. Kankabatok is the old name of Tacloban.

Samar

66. Samal
Capital: Catbalogan
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Waray
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Samar
Note: Samal is another name for the island of Samar. Catbalogan was founded by the Spanish in 1596.

67. Ibabao
Capital: Catarman
Development: 2/1/1
Culture: Waray
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Samar
Note: Ibabao is another name for the island of Samar. Before the coming of the Spanish, Catarman (Calatman or Cataruman) was a settlement by the mouth of the river of the same name in the region called Ibabao. The Spanish applied the name of Ibabao (Ybabao) to the northern part of Samar island.

68. Tandaya
Capital: Borongan
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Waray
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Samar
Note: Tandaya is another name for the island of Samar. Borongan's history can be traced back to the early 1600 (said to be founded in 1619). Another possible capital is Guiuan, the place where Ferdinand Magellan first set foot on Philippine soil (was actually Homonhon which is now part of Guiuan).
zraith 6 Oct, 2018 @ 6:24am 
Mindanao
Many of the provinces in mainland Mindanao were primarily made to give more depth to the island or for gameplay reasons.

Caraga
Caraga was used as a name for the region since 1622.

69. Caraga
Capital: Surigao
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Butuan-Tausug
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills/Forest
Modifier:
Area: Caraga
Note: Surigao was founded as a port by Spanish colonizers in 1655 and it is one of the oldest port towns in Mindanao. It has abundant mineral reserves including gold, iron, copper and among the world's largest nickel deposits in Nonoc Island.

70. Mamanwas
Capital: Tandag
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Caraga
Note: Named after a local tribe that lives/lived in the area. Tandag was founded sometime in the early 17th century (<1650).

71. Kinamayo
Capital: Lianga
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Caraga
Note: Kinamayo is an alternate spelling of Kamayo which is a local tribe that lives in the area. Lianga is one of the oldest towns in the area with history going back to at least 1655.

72. Kamayo
Capital: Beslin
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Caraga
Note: Named after a local tribe that lives in the area. Beslin is variant spelling of present-day Bislig by Conquistador Miquel de Loarca in his Relacion de los Yslas Filipinas in 1582. Other variants by other Spanish chroniclers include Bislin, Baslig, Bislic and Bisliq. Bislig is what appears on a 1734 map of the Philippines.

Agusan
Named after a former province, but also after the river that runs through most of area.

73. Manobo
Capital: Talacogon
Development: 1/4/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Marsh
Modifier:
Area: Agusan
Note: Named after a local tribe in the area. Talacogon is located in near the Agusan marsh that covers part of the area.

74. Butuan
Capital: Butuan
Development: 4/5/3
Culture: Butuan-Tausug
Religion: Hindu
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Agusan
Note: Not much to say, capital province of Rajahnate of Butuan.

75. Higaonon
Capital: Gingoog
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Agusan
Note: Named after a local tribe living in the area. The capital, Gingoog was founded by Spanish missionaries in 1750.

Bukidnon

76. Kalambaguasasahan
Capital: Himologan
Development: 2/3/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Bukidnon
Note: Named after the river that runs through it. Kalambaguasasahan is the original name of the Cagayan river. Himologan, present-day Huluga, was a settlement that the Spanish came into contact when they arrived in the area. Himologan is eight kilometers from present-day Cagayan de Oro.

77. Kitanglad
Capital: Binukid
Development: 2/1/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Bukidnon
Note: Named after the mountain range running through the area. The capital is named fater a local tribe living in the area.

78. Kalatungan
Capital: Bukidnon
Development: 2/3/2
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Bukidnon
Note: Named after the mountain range in the area. Capital is named after the general term used to describe the people living on the Bukidnon plateau.

79. Apo
Capital: Aeta
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Davos
Note: Named after Mt. Apo, a volcano in the area. Capital is named after a local tribe.

80. Pantaron
Capital: Tigwahanon
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Bukidnon
Note: Named after the mountain range going through the area. Capital is named after a local tribe living in the area. Another name is the Pulangi river that runs through one of the river valleys in the province.

Davos

81. Dibabawon
Capital: Caumanga
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Davos
Note: Named after a Manobo people living in the area that speak Dibabawon Manobo. Caumanga is the original name of Montevista area.

82. Mandaya
Capital: Caraga
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Caraga
Note: Named after a local tribe living in the area. Caraga was chosen as capital due to its central location in the area. It is said to have been founded in 1861, but it shows up on a Philippine map from 1734.

83. Mansaka
Capital: Mati
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Davos
Note: Named after a local tribe living in the area. Mati was founded in 1861.

84. Bagobo
Capital: Tagloc
Development: 2/2/2
Culture: Bilic
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Davos
Note: Named after a local tribe living in the area. Tagloc is the old Bagobo name for the Davao River.

85. Tagakaulo
Capital: Kalagan
Development: 1/2/1
Culture: Mansakan
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Davos
Note: Named after the language cluster in the area. Capital is named after a tribal people in the area.

Buayan
Area is named after the second major Sultanate in Mindanao, the Sultanate of Buayan.

86. Sarangani
Capital: Glan
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Bilic
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Buayan
Note: Named after the bay located nearby and the islands right of its coast.

87. B'laan
Capital: Buayan
Development: 3/5/3
Culture: Bilic
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Buayan
Note: Named after a local tribe in the area. The capital can either be Dadiangas or Buayan, they both are within the present-day boundaries of General Santos city. Buayan placement I am basing off on a more modern map of the Cotabato province and

88. Sebu
Capital: T'boli
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Bilic
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Buayan
Note: Named after a lake in the area. Capital is named after the local indigenous people that live in the area.

89. Busa
Capital: Kiamba
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Bilic
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Buayan
Note: Named after a peak, Mount Busa, that is in the area. Kiamba was chosen for the simple reason that there wasn't anything else to choose from.

Maguindanao

90. Teduray
Capital: Lebak
Development: 2/2/1
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Maguindanao
Note: Named after a local tribe in the area. Lebak was chosen as the capital as the area was already settled, archaeological data shows signs of settlement from 585 AD in Salangsang, a village (barangay) of Lebak.

91. Koronadal
Capital: Buluan
Development: 4/3/2
Culture: Danao
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Marsh
Modifier:
Area: Maguindanao
Note: Named after the valley that Buluan, the capital, is located in and where most of the population is.

92. Arumanon
Capital: Arumanon
Development: 3/2/2
Culture: Manobo
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Maguindanao
Note: Province and capital are named after a local tribe in the area.

93. Cotabato
Capital: Kota Wato
Development: 4/4/3
Culture: Danao
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Marsh
Modifier:
Area: Maguindanao
Note: Kota Wato is the original name of Cotabato City.

Ranao
Lanao in Maranao language.

94. Masiu
Capital: Masiu
Development: 2/4/2
Culture: Danao
Religion: Mahayana
Trade Good:
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Ranao (local for Lanao)
Note: Named after one of the principalities (Sultanates) of Lanao. The capital is Masiu as well, as it was the capital of the Masiu Sultanate.

95. Baloi
Capital: Iligan
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Danao
Religion: Hindu
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Ranao (local for Lanao)
Note: Named after one of the principalities (Sultanates) of Lanao. Iligan was founded in 1609, but it was also a settlement prior to Spanish arrival. Another possible capital is Marawi or as it was known as Dansalan when it was founded by the Spanish in 1639.

96. Unayan
Capital: T'buk
Development: 4/4/2
Culture: Danao
Religion: Sunni
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Ranao (local for Lanao)
Note: Named after one of the principalities (Sultanates) of Lanao. T'buk, present-day Malaban, has important history with the introduction of Islam to Mindanao as it was the first point where it was introduced by Shariff Mohammed Kabungsuwan. It was also apparently home to the Sultanate of T'buk. It is also considered to be the one of the oldest settlements in Mindanao.

Zamboanga

97. Misamis
Capital: Misamis
Development: 2/3/1
Culture: Subanen
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Hills
Modifier:
Area: Zamboanga
Note: The capital Misamis is the Spanish town that later grew into Ozamiz. The town was founded when the Spanish built a stone fort in the area in 1756.

98. Subanen
Capital: Sindangan
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Subanen
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Zamboanga
Note: Province is named after a local tribe in the area. Sindangan was chosen as the capital as it it was said to have existed in pre-Spanish times and it later became part of the municipality of Dapitan in 1598. Dapitan is another choice as it was founded in 1563 by the ruler of the Kedatuan of Dapitan after it was destroyed by the Sultanate of Ternate in 1563.

99. Illana
Capital: Talapukan
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Subanen
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Zamboanga
Note: Province is named after the bay that it is next to. The capital is Talapukan, the original name that was given to the area that the present-day city of Pagadian is located.

100. Sibuguey
Capital: Kabasalan
Development: 1/1/1
Culture: Subanen
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Jungle
Modifier:
Area: Zamboanga
Note: Province is named after the bay that it is next to. The capital is Bacalan, which in present-day is a part of Ipil, as it appears on a 1734 map of the Philippines.

101. Zamboanga
Capital: Samboangan
Development: 3/4/2
Culture: Subanen
Religion: Animism
Trade Good:
Terrain: Forest
Modifier:
Area: Zamboanga
Note: Zamboanga City was founded in late 12th or early 13th century as a settlement of Subanen people. The city was used to be known as Samboangan in historical records.

Sulu

102. Taguima
Capital: Kumalarang
Development: 3/3/2
Culture: Butuan-Tausug (Sama-Bajaw actually)
Religion: Animism
Trade Good: Iron
Terrain: Mountain
Modifier:
Area: Sulu
Name: Taguima is the old Sulu Sultanate name of Basilan. Kumalarang is the name of the capital/area (modern day Isabela City) where a Yakan Kingdom of Kumalarang existed; it is also the name of a river running through the island that the settlement was near to. Last mention of this kingdom was when the king, Lakan Ipentun, died on May 27, 1421 in Fujian, China where he was about to embark back home.

103. Sulu
Capital: Jolo
Development: 5/4/3
Culture: Butuan-Tausug
Religion: Sunni
Trade Good: Gems (Original)
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Sulu
Note: Capital could be Jolo.
'Astana Putih ('The Seat of the Royal Sultanate of Sulu was in Astana Putih, which is Tausug for ‘White Palace’ in Umbul Duwa in the municipality of Indanan on Jolo Island, later on, the capital was moved in Maimbung during the 1800s') / Jolo (capital of the island of the same name)'

104. Tawi-Tawi
Capital: Bongao
Development: 4/4/2
Culture: Butuan-Tausug (Sama-Bajaw actually)
Religion: Sunni
Trade Good: Fish
Terrain: Coastline
Modifier:
Area: Sulu
Note: Bongao is an ancient city and cultural center of the Bajau people.
Wow. Congrats! This is fabulous.
Nikicaga 6 Oct, 2018 @ 6:37am 
Wow. Jusr wow!
deserk 6 Oct, 2018 @ 6:39am 
Awesome work
Procyon 6 Oct, 2018 @ 2:30pm 
Wow, are you planning to make a submod?
Draíocht  [developer] 7 Oct, 2018 @ 12:21am 
@zraith

I'm a bit distracted by 10.0/update to 1.27, but I'm most eager to look at this suggestion more in depth soon. At a glance it looks singularly superb, thanks!
Procyon 7 Oct, 2018 @ 4:36am 
@Draíocht
600 development seems like too much though, apparently the Philippines had a population of only 600,000 by 1591
Last edited by Procyon; 7 Oct, 2018 @ 9:09am
zraith 7 Oct, 2018 @ 6:30am 
@Procyon: 619 development is post-development doubling (10.0 BT). I tried limiting the amount it'll be raised and some of the province could be lower by some kind of amount, but otherwise I ran into two issue (well 3, but the third is a mix of the first two):
  • Making the majority or if not all of the provinces 1/1/1 which wold make the Philippines a very poor place.
  • Eliminating provinces - this is open to discussion as this is just my own suggestion without peer review.

-Edit-

The development figures are tentative (rough draft) and I'll probably be adjusting some as I get to the point of including tags (nations) to the area. With existing tags I'm planning on keeping as close to their current base game development as possible so that'll mean reducing the listed (above) development if their territorities were split.
Last edited by zraith; 7 Oct, 2018 @ 7:03am
Procyon 7 Oct, 2018 @ 9:20am 
You could cut some provinces in the poorer/insignificant areas, which seems to have been the rule in past BT updates. That kind of density probably won't make it into BT which is why I asked if you were going to make a submod

Edit: over half of your provinces are 2/2/2 or under (which is 1/1/1 in vanilla). So the Philippines are already dirt poor in your draft, there's just so many provinces that the development shoots up
Last edited by Procyon; 7 Oct, 2018 @ 9:31am
Procyon 7 Oct, 2018 @ 9:24am 
By the way, could you post a development mapmode? I think it would be interesting to see
Nikicaga 7 Oct, 2018 @ 9:49am 
I wouldn't cut too many provinces, as most of them represent tags/tribes as well, or just small islands, and I don't like islands split in just two provinces. Maybe some in Maguindanao, but only one or two. The dev could be lowered a bit in some areas, but I don't think it's *too* much since a big chunk of it is going to be in uncolonised provinces ( so it won't affect balance), and much of the rest in new tags ( which also minimises balance issues).

Also, note that dev != population. It is based on quite a few factors, and the Philippines were an important trade hub where many different cultures and religions met, plus they produced some quite valuable trade goods.
Draíocht  [developer] 7 Oct, 2018 @ 11:38am 
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As I mentioned, I don't really have time at the moment to dive in, but I would pop in quickly to say that dev balance is typically somewhat easily adjustable, and I've always been clear that I prefer high-detail initial drafts so I can cut things being informed, rather than miss things being stupid.

Though ~600 is substantial for what was presumably ~1/2 million people in 1444, as Nikicaga said as well, dev != population, so I expect my own view would lean towards something in between the two extremes. Though I admit I've have serious concerns about ~550 dev to Lithuania, which probably had ~x4-x6 that population and much more clout.

I'm very hopeful zraith will be patient with a couple questions and work with me on some drafts to include some version of this in the future (though the exact timeframe is dependent on a variety of factors).
zraith 7 Oct, 2018 @ 12:05pm 
@Procyon: I would prefer not to post a development mapmode at the moment as I'm not entirely happy with the development numbers (even with what I posted here) and will probably will not be until closer to when I'm done with the tags. At this point in time, I was more focused on making Philippines province detail wise into something that I felt was good not only to showcase nations, but also for strategic depth to give the nations there some lasting power against others (the Cordilleria region for example was never entirely conquered by the Spanish). I wasn't taking into account development or anything like that.

The posted province map is the latest in a series of drafts that I've done and it'll definetely be not the last as I take in suggestions, find more information or rethink my decisions on what to include or not. As for example one of my earlier draft (that I can remember reasonably) had the province total be up to 112 (this dropped as I got feedback from the BT community on Discord) and even now there are a couple places that could be cut/dropped.

@Procyon & Nikicaga: That is one of things that I'm worried. Philippines why not as heavily populated as other locations did have the wealth in terms of trade goods to draw in European colonizers to the area. Lowering the development too much would make the Philippines no better than locations such as Northern Canada or Siberia (that 1/1/1 post-doubling provinces) which wasn't the case. I guess once way to overcome this would be to have low development but guarantee high valued trade goods (force them by events if necessary).

@Draiocht: I'll be happy to work with you on this, offering reasons for my choices, providing the data that I used to make them, etc... at the later timeframe when you have the time.
Last edited by zraith; 7 Oct, 2018 @ 12:06pm
Procyon 7 Oct, 2018 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by zraith:
The posted province map is the latest in a series of drafts that I've done and it'll definetely be not the last as I take in suggestions, find more information or rethink my decisions on what to include or not.
I see, in that case just take my comments as suggestions for a final draft.

Though aside from that, Spain should have a decision to establish the Manila Galleon, maybe giving Manila some development or a modifier.
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