ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

Shigoislands
We were asked to make a thread about underspawning.
Loading Just ExCore and Shigo on single player means not finding barely ANY dinos spawning. Running ExCore without Shigo, lots of spawns, Running Shigo without Excore, Lots of spawns. Something between ExCore and Shigo are causing a lot of underspawning. For example, with ExCore only running with Shigo, Therinzinosaurus's are so rare you might as well call them gigas. It seems ExCore replaces spawns and it underspawns MASSIVELY. Even when we did 1.5x spawns, it still seemed underspawning the higher dinos. SO MANY Parasaurs, Trikes, Turtles, and Dilos, barely anything else. It took us all game to find any other mods other than those. We started on arashi and moved through the islands, searching for HOURS for a theri with ExCore loaded, couldnt' find a single one. We eventually were forced to ditch both ExCore and Shigo Islands and load Eternal Ark on TheIsland.. We love this map but it's impossible to play with so little spawns. Also, we couldn't find any of the new Dinos with Excore installed with Shigo, we found them when we did Shigo only, and we found them when we did ExCore only, but not together. Very strange issue. Reproducable x8 times all 8 of our tribe members tested it in single player, barely any spawns whatsoever with Excore, despite it still being 'slightly' compatible, lots of crashes when both mods were used together, however.
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Exilog  [developer] 5 Apr, 2017 @ 12:52pm 
broblem is that EXCore is balanced in Theisland, maybe in center or SE too but this is all you can check in the devkit. the Modmakers dont have access to all the other maps... I told WC a bigger problem that happen on Dinomods hope they can fix it fast- this would make all problems vasish
EuphoricGaming 5 Apr, 2017 @ 1:05pm 
I hope so too. The overspawning / underspawning is redic o-o
Dragnier Draconai 23 Apr, 2017 @ 6:17am 
I have also encountered this when trying to use Eternal with Shigo. However when I used Eternal with another modded map called Mortem Tupiu + SE V2.05, the spawns were just fine. This tells me that the issue may lie with Shigo.
Exilog  [developer] 23 Apr, 2017 @ 12:04pm 
The problem is not shigo the problem is how Dino remaps are made... if you have a counting volume it dont changes the name inside so it comes to overspawn. can happen on every Map even on SE with the Flyers Mod.
EuphoricGaming 23 Apr, 2017 @ 12:41pm 
Originally posted by Exilog:
The problem is not shigo the problem is how Dino remaps are made... if you have a counting volume it dont changes the name inside so it comes to overspawn. can happen on every Map even on SE with the Flyers Mod.
any way to make it work the way we want?
Dragnier Draconai 24 Apr, 2017 @ 9:07am 
I've also used Eternal with Skies of Nazca, The Center, and The Island. No problems with any of them. Just on Shigo.
S1mplicity 24 Apr, 2017 @ 11:46am 
Some dinos on Shigo are naturally low spawn relative to some other maps.

On Shigo the following are less than half the lowest spawn between island and centre maps: achatina, baryonyx, compy, dire bear, dire wolf, dunkleo, dimetrodon, dimorphodon, diplophosaurus, diplocaulus, diplodocus, dung beetle, gigantopithicus, Iguanadon, kaprosuchus, megaloceros, megapiranha, meganeura, mesopithicus, paraceratherium, parasaur, pelagornis, phiomia, pleiosaur, sarco, spino, tapejara, terror bird, therizinosaurus, titanboa, titanomyrma drone, titanomyrma soldier, troodon.

The ones you will really notice (typically less than 10) when you look for them are: baryonyx, dimetrodon, diplocaulus, dung beetle (easy as its in a cave so no issue really), gigantopithicus, iguanadon, kaprosuchus, pleiosaur, sarco, spino, tapejara, therizinosaurus. Some of these will change with the swamp area change. anyway.

Only the Bronto, Manta, Tribolite are spawned at much higher rates than the island and centre.

All the others are similar numbers, to either the island or centre spawns.

Each map is very different, I was surprised by the differences in individual dino spawn rates between the island and centre maps.
Shigo spawns in about 18-20K NPC's Island and centre spawn in about 24-26K and scorched earth about 12K. Shigo can handle 30K NPC's as its about 40% bigger and not feel overspawned for me, but I currently run 1.4 dino multiplier giving about 25K.

BTW Therizinsaurus is on Arashi, I got mine on Arashi in the dense forest near desert, usually 2-3 hide in the forest.

If you run this map on a dedicated paid for server with a few mods and dino spawn increase make sure the server allows enough memory I'm currently running at 4.5Gb, thankfully i have upto 100Gb, but some providers only give 4Gb as standard and more is extra.

Dragnier Draconai 24 Apr, 2017 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by S1mplicity:
Some dinos on Shigo are naturally low spawn relative to some other maps.

When I loaded Shigo with the Eternal mod, nothing but Eternal modified dinos would spawn. That hasn't happened with any other map besides Shigo either. Now, I suppose that could be super low spawn rates for Shigo just making it look like only Eternal stuff was spawning... I might try again at some point with the spawn multiplier cranked up a bit to see.
Kepano_808HI (Banned) 28 Apr, 2017 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by IceyFoxy:
I hope so too. The overspawning / underspawning is redic o-o
we arent having any underspawning...everything is normal. Not running the mod you mentioned but some other that are not for dinos except claissic flyers..
Shiro 3 May, 2017 @ 12:35pm 
I suggest you add this to your GameUserSettings.ini

[ServerSettings]
DinoCountMultiplier=1

*(1=being default)

Keep tweaking till you get you perfect match.

Kinda late reply but I hope it helps anyone facing Under-spawning/Over-spawning problems
Last edited by Shiro; 3 May, 2017 @ 12:37pm
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