Yea. i miss that floppy/flexible physics as well. it was easier to pose because the standard hl2 physics always likes to fight back.

If I subscribe this, I can switch improved physics file that's why there's normal.

Why not make 2 versions of it!
one floppy
one hl2ish

Originally posted by Haus The Plague Doctor:

Why not make 2 versions of it!
one floppy
one hl2ish

The creator wont do that

yeah i don't want to make even more packs and confuse people. i mean i'm not exactly good at posing but can somebody explain why you can't just use ragdoll mover?

Originally posted by zelpa:

yeah i don't want to make even more packs and confuse people. i mean i'm not exactly good at posing but can somebody explain why you can't just use ragdoll mover?

As what I said a thousand times, Ragdoll Mover DOESN'T support all ragdolls. Well as a Ragdoll Mover user, it may be useful but it's more clunky than SFM's posing system itself. And there's people that prefer Physgun and not Ragdoll Mover.

Well.. save for the IK rigs.

but does it support these ones? if not i can fix that for you guys. i'm just trying to make everyone happy here.

Originally posted by zelpa:

but does it support these ones? if not i can fix that for you guys. i'm just trying to make everyone happy here.

It's purely trial and error. In some occasions a ragdoll might support but the other one it won't, it's a dang guessing game. And you did, but you just displeased the others that want the Enhanced physics the same time and not the clunky, boring, stiff Default physics that they were even more stiff than Doom 3's ragdolls themselves.

We can't please everyone that is. And I assume the ones that are voting to remove it are either trolls or newcomers. It's kinda misleading that it said "Enhanced Citizens V4" yet it uses default physics. Might as well rename it to "Citizens V4".

My two cents that is

okay listen, while these were ORIGINALLY designed for posing, these versions that i've created are more or less designed to be used as playermodels. I can make a zipped version with the old physics and release that as an update if you want, but you would have to keep that manually updated as I wouldn't like to put that on the workshop.

Originally posted by zelpa:

okay listen, while these were ORIGINALLY designed for posing, these versions that i've created are more or less designed to be used as playermodels. I can make a zipped version with the old physics and release that as an update if you want, but you would have to keep that manually updated as I wouldn't like to put that on the workshop.

Might as well remove the "floppy" question found in the FAQ then. I mean, I can't comprehend how the community complained about HL2 ragdolls having floppy ragdolls yet not complaining about TF2 have said ragdolls (I know I'm repeating it but just want to get it out.)

But eh, whatever... I'm a hypocrite that I complain about stiff physics anyways. The amount of stupid people in this community surprised me..

你们再说什么？

@zelpa, are you able to ask any devs to rig these ragdoll models into playermodels? These are stunning and look really nice for a 2004 engine, and would be great substitutes.

Originally posted by greg the calendar:

@zelpa, are you able to ask any devs to rig these ragdoll models into playermodels? These are stunning and look really nice for a 2004 engine, and would be great substitutes.

The only thing changed to it was the hands, nothing more.

Originally posted by ColonialistSunkyNiGHTS:

The only thing changed to it was the hands, nothing more.

saying i only changed the hands is a bit disingenous, i pretty much remade this pack from scratch. they feature new eyes, new hands, a few textures updated by me, and tons of facemaps. i mean sure the base textures are still pretty low quality, but the hands aren't the only new thing.

I agree, better to revert to "Enhanced" physics. I love floppy physics <3