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Aliens Vs Predator - *OLD*
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Joseph Sneed 15 Aug, 2016 @ 10:20pm
This armor is way to overpowered
I was giving this mod a test run and I dont know if it was intened to be balenced or not but as it stands this mod is very over powered.

The largest thing about how OP it is is the length and recharge rate of the cloak. The cloak lasts sevral miniutes and then disapears only to be instantly recharged on decloaking a 1st step to making it balenced would be to ether shorten the cloak length to about 30 seconds or draw out the recharge so its a 1:1 ratio of cloak time vs recharge time.

The 2nd thing that makes this so OP is its armor value with the cloaking abilitty being so powerful and even if it is nerfed the armor value is nuts to pair with that abilitty and should likely only hover around 500 for the full set. I would also say having such a high value is not in the spirit of the armor set as the whole point of being a predator is to remain hidden and strike quickly this does not require direct confrontation in most cases.

3rd is the plasma cannon. What makes this OP is the fact theres no way to configure the recharge rate the fact the damage can be ajusted is a major thing but doesnt go quite far enough for this weapon.

I know I sound like I am nagging here but I like the mod and would like to see it run more balenced.
Last edited by Joseph Sneed; 15 Aug, 2016 @ 10:30pm
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123 17 Aug, 2016 @ 7:52am 
is the cloak working for autoturrets too? if the autoturrets dont shoot, its way too much OP . i Dont know if it does, im asking you guys
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Enrell 17 Aug, 2016 @ 8:40am 
If the turrets can shoot at it, what is the purpose of cloaking then.
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UGZ  [developer] 18 Aug, 2016 @ 12:30am 
The mod seems to obviously not be intended to be balanced with ark. Luckily the dmg itself an be modified for the cannon. I'm sure though the dev may add a customizable timer to the cloak and maybe the armor value for you hopefully
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Joseph Sneed 18 Aug, 2016 @ 12:38am 
Originally posted by UltraGodzilla1:
The mod seems to obviously not be intended to be balanced with ark. Luckily the dmg itself an be modified for the cannon. I'm sure though the dev may add a customizable timer to the cloak and maybe the armor value for you hopefully

That might not be an issue if it wasnt for this.

Originally posted by salcarr:
Upcoming features:
Going to add cloaking of weapon for combistick and plasma cannon.
Hoping to add the throwing disk with animation included,
Hopefully able to add wrist blades.
Hopefully be able to make a working shoulder cannon.
Add wild Predators with Custom AI for stalking players with stealth.
Add self-destruct bomb. Quoted text

It is right on the description page.

It will have to be made more balenced with the base game at some point if he plans on doing this or those AI Predators are going to be just as OP as the armor. I am going to say as I left it out of the original post is I understand this mod just came out and it will take some time to get everything working and in order but as it stands now it is very OP even for single player use.
Last edited by Joseph Sneed; 18 Aug, 2016 @ 12:42am
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Enrell 18 Aug, 2016 @ 12:54am 
I would love to see when he would release the AI Predators.

Obviously this mod are to be used in modded servers.
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Joseph Sneed 18 Aug, 2016 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by Enrell:
I would love to see when he would release the AI Predators.

Obviously this mod are to be used in modded servers.

Ok let me say this I am using 30 mods and nothing I am using is as OP this mod. As it stands it world only mix in with a handful of other mods that can more than tripple a dinos strength. Without some balencing this mod is going to see limited use I think.
Last edited by Joseph Sneed; 18 Aug, 2016 @ 1:02am
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Enrell 18 Aug, 2016 @ 2:58am 
Originally posted by Joseph51494:
Originally posted by Enrell:
I would love to see when he would release the AI Predators.

Obviously this mod are to be used in modded servers.

Ok let me say this I am using 30 mods and nothing I am using is as OP this mod. As it stands it world only mix in with a handful of other mods that can more than tripple a dinos strength. Without some balencing this mod is going to see limited use I think.

Which 30 mods are u using ? Are you using any of the Dino Overhauls mods ?
Last edited by Enrell; 18 Aug, 2016 @ 2:58am
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Joseph Sneed 18 Aug, 2016 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by Enrell:
Originally posted by Joseph51494:

Ok let me say this I am using 30 mods and nothing I am using is as OP this mod. As it stands it world only mix in with a handful of other mods that can more than tripple a dinos strength. Without some balencing this mod is going to see limited use I think.

Which 30 mods are u using ? Are you using any of the Dino Overhauls mods ?

No but I am running the indo rex mod.
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King Purp 18 Aug, 2016 @ 8:07pm 
I say if its too much of an OP issue just dont use it. I don't think you should demand anything from somebody that has made something free of charge.
#9
Shamus 23 Aug, 2016 @ 5:31am 
One tribe wiped a whole server using this mod while everyone was offline. Tamed dinos don't agro, turrets don't target and the cannon is unlimited ammo.
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Enrell 23 Aug, 2016 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by Reuleaux:
One tribe wiped a whole server using this mod while everyone was offline. Tamed dinos don't agro, turrets don't target and the cannon is unlimited ammo.

Its the mod fault if the server did not use the mod or stock ORP ?

Tell your server admin to remove this mod then.
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Enrell 23 Aug, 2016 @ 6:21am 
Originally posted by King Purp:
I say if its too much of an OP issue just dont use it. I don't think you should demand anything from somebody that has made something free of charge.

Ditto
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Shamus 23 Aug, 2016 @ 6:26am 
Don't remember demanding ♥♥♥♥. I'm just warning people of the possibility of a single person wiping a whole server. Like the mod though.
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Joseph Sneed 23 Aug, 2016 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by Enrell:
Originally posted by Reuleaux:
One tribe wiped a whole server using this mod while everyone was offline. Tamed dinos don't agro, turrets don't target and the cannon is unlimited ammo.

Its the mod fault if the server did not use the mod or stock ORP ?

Tell your server admin to remove this mod then.

He just proved my point. There is no possible way for this mod to be used by most severs as it is so powerful. Its base stats need to be turned WAY down or all fetures need to be made fully configureable. There is simply no other way for this mod to be useable other than as an admin armor.
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Enrell 24 Aug, 2016 @ 8:49am 
Originally posted by Joseph51494:
Originally posted by Enrell:

Its the mod fault if the server did not use the mod or stock ORP ?

Tell your server admin to remove this mod then.

He just proved my point. There is no possible way for this mod to be used by most severs as it is so powerful. Its base stats need to be turned WAY down or all fetures need to be made fully configureable. There is simply no other way for this mod to be useable other than as an admin armor.

If the player can single-handedly wiped offline bases using this mod, then there is something wrong with that server. That server basically condoning offline-griefing. Why would anyone play in that server anyways.
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