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Expert AI 5.0
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ShadowSun 15 Nov, 2020 @ 8:01pm
Trouble keeping up with enemy air
I was playing a historical game as the USSR and fighting against Germany.on hard difficulty. After getting all of the lessons of war focus taken care of in 39, I spent the next two years with 20 plus factories producing fighters and having the air production focus on.

It's 42 and the war has started. Germany completely dwarfs my air with 10k fighters and 6k in any given air region. I have 5k fighters at most and any region i put them in they get completely annihilated with insane K/Ds of 100s of my fighters lost to like 10 or 20 of theirs. I have most of my upgraded to fighter II and I am upgrading them further, but I am so hopelessly behind at this point I struggle to see the point. All of my support planes have been destroyed, and I am investing everything left into fighters but Germany continues to outpace. They have not even been using the air production focus.

I am unsure how much more I need to be focusing on fighters to match the enemy's production. I feel like we should be about roughly the same but it's not even close, the enemy air completely dominates mine. I can't even do interception missions without getting destroyed. I am able to keep up with the AI on tanks, divisions, and factories but for some reason aircraft they just completely speed past me. Germany right now has more fighters than me, UK, and Japan combined.

Any ideas on how to deal with this?
Last edited by ShadowSun; 16 Nov, 2020 @ 9:08am
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Kondi  [developer] 17 Nov, 2020 @ 1:26am 
The harder you make Germany (especially with the mod settings), the more you have to resort to more extreme strategies of course. That could mean not using air force at all and focusing on anti-air or only producing fighters from the start and doing everything you can to get air xp before the war and then being careful to assign your air force in areas where it is needed right now to stall the invasion or such rather than just contesting air and losing planes for nothing.
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ShadowSun 17 Nov, 2020 @ 6:32am 
Okay thanks. I guess those advantages are much more exacerbated with air, since the production bonuses take so much effect there. Could you look into making a setting where the ai doesn't get as much buffs to air production? I like the other difficult modifiers fine but t like being able to win the air war too.

Thanks for your work on the mod by the way.
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Kondi  [developer] 18 Nov, 2020 @ 7:36am 
Up to you to set up the difficulty. I don't know what settings you had but generally the bonuses on hard presets shouldn't boost air production that much. If that 10k fighters included Italy and other Axis countries then it's not that unreasonable.
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Yagami 24 Nov, 2020 @ 2:51pm 
I dont have much experience with ussr, but 20 factory imho terribly low. If im playing other major the factories circa 1/3 usually fighter 1/3 tanks other 1/3 cas+navb+inf eq etc... so 100 fighter factory not unusual, heck against an insane germany/max slider as usa 150+ with all bonuses dont enough to get air supremacy.
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