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my_world - Omega Flowey boss battle
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DarkSlayer415 21 Sep, 2016 @ 11:05am
Just Want To Clear a Few Things Up
So I talked to Frostbutt Scales, one of the map creators, regarding the discussion topic I created that caused quite a bit of problems per se. I've already apologized to the map makers for the commotion and I would just like to ask everyone else to forget about it and just go on with your lives.

Yes, I do hate Undertale and the Undertale community for many reasons, whether it be the fandom, or the fact that I just thought it was a poorly made and terrible game in general. I love TF2 and I love the community contributors such as the amazing people who made this map. The map looks well done from the screenshots, and I just want to let the map makers know that I would love to see you guys contribute to a future TF2 update.

However, I've seen the actions of the Undertale community directly affect some of the communities I love, such as the Touhou Project community for example. If you don't know what Touhou is, look it up I guess. Anyways, what basically happened was ravenous Undertale fanboys would just come to Touhou videos and completely wreak havoc and bring in their annoying comments. Basically, what happened was this. Toby Fox admitted to being inspired by Touhou, people noticed the similarities, people made parodies and crossovers of the two games, etc, and what do you know, the rabid and vicious Undertale fanbase comes on and spams their annoying comments on a lot of videos that aren't even related to Undertale just because it was used in a parody. Sure, I'm fine if it's like a few references, but when the entire comment section or topic is just flooded with unrelated content, most people would naturally react and tell them to stop. This doesn't even scratch the surface of what happens out there, but I've experienced this first hand as a dedicated Touhou Project fan.

Now, unlike last time, I won't request the map be removed from the workshop. If you don't like it, downvote it if you'd like or just ignore it, which was the mistake I made. Unless Valve and the Steam Community Mods decide to remove it, have fun playing the map or have fun not playing the map. The TF2 community is one of the greatest communities I've ever had the honor to be a part of. We've all had ups and downs, not-so-good updates like Meet Your Match and End of The Line, but we all get together and play the game we love. The reason why I made a dumb request like that was because this type of content would attract ravenous Undertale fanboys to TF2, many of them who will most likely be annoying F2P squeakers with mics. The community contributors are what makes TF2 a great game with map submissions, new weapon ideas, new hats, taunts, and whatever other kinds of stuff you guys do for all of us that we all appreciate. However, many people of the TF2 community may not appreciate this type of content and it could have a potential negative effect on the TF2 community. Yes, I know you guys have been making this map for nearly a year and I know a lot of effort must've been put into it. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that a map like this may affect the TF2 community negatively because this type of content will bring in Undertale fanboys that will just ruin the experience of playing this map. However, there's always two sides to a coin, and I bet there will be many people who enjoy this map that are dedicated TF2 players like me and many others here.

In conclusion, I'd just like to say that I'm extremely sorry for the commotion I've caused. One of the map creators is already aware of my apology and I just request that everyone go on with their lives peacefully. Thank you and have a good day.

EDIT: Just as a heads up, no, my original post wasn't intended for trolling. I made a mistake and got carried away. And as for this post, yes, I'm being sincere with my apology.

EDIT 2: Here's what I got to say for those complaining about haters. You can't tell people what they can or can't like. There are bound to be haters of everything, and I happen to hate Undertale and it's cancerous community.

EDIT 3: Finally played Undertale. I posted a review on what I thought of the game on Steam.
Last edited by DarkSlayer415; 2 Jan, 2017 @ 10:32am
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JugadorXEI 21 Sep, 2016 @ 1:13pm 
Heyo Dark Slayer!

I am one of the content managers for Red Sun Over Paradise, the community that originally hosted this map before it got released on the Steam Workshop. I think it's best that I give you a little bit of backstory related to the map:

my_world was originally made for a in-community Halloween event for players to enjoy, although it was absolutely barebones (Flowey would only attack you using unpatterned bomb spam, for example) and it was really just in for the spook factor only. The development of the map continued after Halloween, making it look more polished and nicer, while being occassionally played once in a while on unscheduled Steam events for the sake of testing new versions. This, as you may already know, was done before the Undertale fandom became dangerously cancerous, but right after Undertale became a huge hit, we started to get a great deal of Undertale kiddies asking- no, begging for the map to be played on the servers. I think this video[files.catbox.moe] speaks for itself (it's a direct video link, so it might be loud due to it defaulting to 100% volume. If it doesn't appear or it's a LINK REMOVED thing, blame Valve). In other words: we've received the same abuse as you. The Undertale cancer was so overwhelming back then that it was headache-inducing; there were players, lots of them, with "sans" or "papyrus" or any other Undertale character as their name, occasionally roleplaying as the characters themselves, being annoying, and lots of squeakers also came to the server with voices that were unbearable. It was really stressful for us staff members to keep them in bay, so much that specific rules were made to disallow roleplaying within the servers or forums.

As you may understand, the creators of the map are not bad people. They did a map that is really cool, after all! The point of the map is to be enjoyed by people who enjoyed the game just as much in TF2, and it's amazing that this even exists even with the limitations within the Valve Hammer Editor (most notably the entity limit). I'm very glad you understand that there were no ill intentions with it and I hope people (and the developers) get as forgiving as me.

As a note, the reason I posted in the original thread (and sent you a comment to your profile) saying that your thread was a "good troll" was because I was somewhat in disbelief on the disrespect you did on the original mappers. It baffled me how someone could very much be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to other people just because they did something they wanted to do. But yeah, this is the Internet after all, nothing should ever surprise me.

Have a nice day.

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DarkSlayer415 21 Sep, 2016 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by JugadorXEI:
Heyo Dark Slayer!

I am one of the content managers for Red Sun Over Paradise, the community that originally hosted this map before it got released on the Steam Workshop. I think it's best that I give you a little bit of backstory related to the map:

my_world was originally made for a in-community Halloween event for players to enjoy, although it was absolutely barebones (Flowey would only attack you using unpatterned bomb spam, for example) and it was really just in for the spook factor only. The development of the map continued after Halloween, making it look more polished and nicer, while being occassionally played once in a while on unscheduled Steam events for the sake of testing new versions. This, as you may already know, was done before the Undertale fandom became dangerously cancerous, but right after Undertale became a huge hit, we started to get a great deal of Undertale kiddies asking- no, begging for the map to be played on the servers. I think this video[files.catbox.moe] speaks for itself (it's a direct video link, so it might be loud due to it defaulting to 100% volume. If it doesn't appear or it's a LINK REMOVED thing, blame Valve). In other words: we've received the same abuse as you. The Undertale cancer was so overwhelming back then that it was headache-inducing; there were players, lots of them, with "sans" or "papyrus" or any other Undertale character as their name, occasionally roleplaying as the characters themselves, being annoying, and lots of squeakers also came to the server with voices that were unbearable. It was really stressful for us staff members to keep them in bay, so much that specific rules were made to disallow roleplaying within the servers or forums.

As you may understand, the creators of the map are not bad people. They did a map that is really cool, after all! The point of the map is to be enjoyed by people who enjoyed the game just as much in TF2, and it's amazing that this even exists even with the limitations within the Valve Hammer Editor (most notably the entity limit). I'm very glad you understand that there were no ill intentions with it and I hope people (and the developers) get as forgiving as me.

As a note, the reason I posted in the original thread (and sent you a comment to your profile) saying that your thread was a "good troll" was because I was somewhat in disbelief on the disrespect you did on the original mappers. It baffled me how someone could very much be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to other people just because they did something they wanted to do. But yeah, this is the Internet after all, nothing should ever surprise me.

Have a nice day.
Thanks for the reply. Hopefully, everyone else is just as understanding. I've already talked to one of the guys who made the map.
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LegendaireNic 21 Sep, 2016 @ 3:25pm 
Hey Dark, its me. the jerk from last night.

I wanted to apologise too. My attitude wasn't the best. I'll admit that near the end of the thread, I just wanted to piss people off. Being a troll. It was not the most mature thing to do.

Could you ever pardon me?
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DarkSlayer415 21 Sep, 2016 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by LegendaireNic:
Hey Dark, its me. the jerk from last night.

I wanted to apologise too. My attitude wasn't the best. I'll admit that near the end of the thread, I just wanted to piss people off. Being a troll. It was not the most mature thing to do.

Could you ever pardon me?
It's all cool. Look, here's how to act better and I should act this way too.
Respect other people's opinions and don't bash other people for different ideas or opinions.
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Revine 21 Oct, 2016 @ 8:39pm 
Just because my name is a the name of a undertale character dosent mean im stupid! im not trying to be mean but dang I have my own free will!
Last edited by Revine; 21 Oct, 2016 @ 8:39pm
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large lady gaming 1 Jan, 2017 @ 11:44am 
Am I seriously the only one who tries to ignore the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from the fans?
This is so immature.
You try to apologize, but won't drop the "issue."

I applaud you, sir.
You are the best comedian I've seen in years.
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DarkSlayer415 1 Jan, 2017 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by 7ofSpades:
Am I seriously the only one who tries to ignore the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ from the fans?
This is so immature.
You try to apologize, but won't drop the "issue."

I applaud you, sir.
You are the best comedian I've seen in years.
What. This discussion is dead.
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SPICE 21 May, 2017 @ 1:04am 
'Ravenous?' Yeah, I like Undertale. I like a lot of games that are flooded with cringe. But the communities aren't all that bad. Yeah, they spam, but this is a community with billions of people in it. At least have some respect for the majority of the fanbase, who are genuine people.
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Guns Blazing 16 Nov, 2018 @ 5:47pm 
damn man did you really try to get this map remove from the steam work shop because you did not like the game. Thats kind of a ♥♥♥♥ move. glad you move on and became a better person sorry to comment on a 3 year old comment
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XeroBlaze 27 Dec, 2018 @ 6:11pm 
PLEASE delete this post or edit it. As much as I love undertale (and its sequel Deltarune) you don't need to say you hate it. If you hate it then make a rant about it boy.
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DarkSlayer415 27 Dec, 2018 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by angie.lal2011:
PLEASE delete this post or edit it. As much as I love undertale (and its sequel Deltarune) you don't need to say you hate it. If you hate it then make a rant about it boy.

Post has been dead for like 2 years old, so people like you need to stop replying it if you want to keep it dead. Also bear in mind that I probably will never stop hating Toby F*cks' crap that he puts out to the gaming industry.
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XeroBlaze 27 Dec, 2018 @ 7:57pm 
Wow XD gonna make this comment a meme
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Dj_Fir3f!y 23 Mar, 2019 @ 3:13pm 
So i guess the sound and effects fixes wont happen then, well, the map is still fun nonetheless
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grub 11 Apr, 2021 @ 4:03am 
the server that i use to play in with this map went down so im just asking if their still some up
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