Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

Total War Mod
Hydra 17 Oct, 2020 @ 10:44am
Suggestion: Dividing Tanks into Cruiser Tanks vs Infantry Tank, or some other dividing of the Medium Tank category, Would Be Useful
I am not making this request out of a desire for historical accuracy. Consider Panzer III's vs Panzer IVs. Both are currently classified as medium tanks, meaning if you plan on utilizing both at the same time - either together in one unit, in separate units, or on different fronts - you have absolutely no way to determine the mix of each statistically different tank amongst your forces. Your tank divisions get what they get. Perhaps the devs of this mod could have intended it as a choice, you pick the right tank for the right phase of the war - but even under this hypothetical reasoning I find the simple problem of not really having much choice as to what division is using what. What the Russians are fielding is very different than what the French and British are fielding, so you can't say it's a choice and then expect whatever you chose to be a one-size-fits-all solution.

I understand that Panzer III's and IV's do themselves not fully fit under the British/French classification system of Cruiser vs Infantry tanks, but consider this distinction merely one to be applied in the division designer and not necessarily translate into some shared trait. We could just throw out the historical names and definitions altogether and just say "Medium Tank 1" and "Medium Tank 2"; with the straightest line to MBTs going in the former category and the latter category being for infantry tanks as well as Panzer IIIs; both being evolutionary 'dead ends' but still having a role for a time. Maybe even the Sherman Jumbo variant on the tech tree could fit in the "2" category as well. What matters for me is the ability to properly distribute the right tank designs throughout my divisions - even if I'm "supposed" to only choose one in a practical sense - because it very much is a right tool for the right job in my eyes, and even more so because this mod emphasizes combined arms warfare. Even if I have a very limited production run of Panzer III's or Sherman Jumbo's, I should be able to design my tank divisions such that their allotment is not up to the whims of the game's code. It's a purely organizational feature for the division designer, to account for the statistical difference between medium tank designs in the mod.
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sethgaines 24 Oct, 2020 @ 7:55am 
A lot of these 'divided types' are interesting ideas, but very poorly implemented. Fighter types are a total mess as well.
Macquarrie 26 Oct, 2020 @ 10:15pm 
I think this is a very good idea. Right now it feels like there are so many pointless things in the mod.
Avcorp 31 Oct, 2020 @ 5:58am 
Originally posted by Macquarrie:
I think this is a very good idea. Right now it feels like there are so many pointless things in the mod.
Yeah the stugs are ♥♥♥♥ compared to reg medium tanks in about everyway, using them in norm tank divs just makes the divs worse. I use them in panzergren divs and like light inf divs i make, but their just kinda there for the most part to retain speed of the div.
Hazard 31 Oct, 2020 @ 12:54pm 
Stugs are pretty good lol, you're prob just bad
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