But that would just make a level 2 sentry that can't die, is that balanced to you?

In what world is that a good idea?

maybe granted invisibility and no sound while reved up, invisibility fades when shooting

Originally posted by Dr.DerpyScout:

maybe granted slight invisibility and no sound while reved up

but -50% damage

yeah that too

[PROS]
No Movespeed Penality while Spin-Up and shortly after Spin-Up.
Gain a Temporary Speed Boost after Deploying this Weapon.
This Weapon Deploys 40% Faster.
[CONS]
-50% Primary Ammo
This Weapon Holsters 25% Slower
Deploying this Weapon Marks you for Death for 2 seconds

How about giving the heavy something that makes him fun to play, and even useful for the team?



pros:
+On hit: 5 % chance for the enemy to get marked for death for 5 seconds (would increase with dmg to a maximum of 15%)
+Bonus healing from healers is increased by 25%
+15% dmg resistance when spun up
+When spun up, nearby teammates get 10% of the healing you get (no overheal for them)

cons:
-40% max ammo
-you are marked for death while carrying but not spun up
-40% healing from medpacks etc.
-Will always do minicrit instead of crits
-No random crits
-10% less accurate

Pros:
+Silent Killer (No barrel spin sound)
-Spin-up time

Cons:
- Ammo
- Damage
- Firing Speed

Extra:
Shoots a net which slows enemies in an area

50% quieter rev up and firing
+40% firing speed

-30% less damage
-1 shot per bullet used
10% less accuracy

Originally posted by Robbie Rotten:

[PROS]
No Movespeed Penality while Spin-Up and shortly after Spin-Up.
Gain a Temporary Speed Boost after Deploying this Weapon.
This Weapon Deploys 40% Faster.
[CONS]
-50% Primary Ammo
This Weapon Holsters 25% Slower
Deploying this Weapon Marks you for Death for 2 seconds

This looks like a flak gun, Should have minicrits when an enemy is in the air.

Originally posted by MeanGreen:

Originally posted by Robbie Rotten:

[PROS]
No Movespeed Penality while Spin-Up and shortly after Spin-Up.
Gain a Temporary Speed Boost after Deploying this Weapon.
This Weapon Deploys 40% Faster.
[CONS]
-50% Primary Ammo
This Weapon Holsters 25% Slower
Deploying this Weapon Marks you for Death for 2 seconds

This looks like a flak gun, Should have minicrits when an enemy is in the air.

Oh boy! A full-auto, one-hundred round Reserve Shooter!

Pros:
+25% damage against players
+30% spin up speed
Gains temporary speed boost when deploying

Cons:
-75% damage against buildings
-40% holster speed
Player is marked for death while spun up

Pros:
+100% Accuracy while crouching
+80% Damage
+Silent Killer: No barrel spin sound (Barrel switches after every shot)
+30% Spin-up time

Cons:
- 80% Firing Speed
- 30% accuracy while not crouching
- Receive more damage from fire sources by 20%

+15% Damage against airborne enemies
+10% Acuracy
+10% Fire-rate while crouching
+Silent Killer (Tomislav style revving, barrel only rotates while shooting.)


-50% Damage against buildings
-15% Damage against non-airborne enemies
-20% Damage resistance from explosives
-20% Slower Deploy/Holster speed


No Random Criticals (Gotta make it balanced, right?)

Lemme give this a spin. I'm used to doing stuff like this.
Since it looks like a tiger, I'll give it stats of what a tiger would have.
Pros:
+15% Damage output
+20% Firing speed
Cons:
-33% ammo
-10% accuracy
Minicrits instead of crits/No random critical hits.

(Optional: Replace -pro/con here- with "+15% damage to airborne/-15% damage to ground".)