Warframe

Warframe

Mesa Graxx
It needs more work
all the grax skins, got lines, holes, and them look more grineer than this.
this mesa still being looking a lot Tenno, it keeps her otriginal clothes as coat, trousers, boots and bandages. Just listen a good constructive critic and not to the fanatics who hype everything just how it looks on beta version (unfinished).
I asume you know this needs more work to look more grax, like the other skins :Grineer::skhand:

We did it guys, thanks all of you for your opinions and colaboration. Thank you Faven for the changes

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Last edited by ✘KittyLanahTV✘ ✓; 17 Jan, 2017 @ 5:04pm
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Faven  [developer] 12 Jan, 2017 @ 7:48am 
"it keeps her otriginal clothes as coat, trousers, boots and bandages"

This is due to how the model is made.

Mesa got a truckload of folds/geo in the model thats very very specific. You simply can't slap armor bits on her and make it look good, it will look like pieces of armor slapped on a pair of trousers..

If you look at the lower leg for example theres actuall geo folds there, not normal detials but the model itself. That kinda stuff kinda happens all over mesa.


I personally don't think its unfinished. its different. Where effort went into making armor bits on other graxx skins the effort here went into making clothing bits.

Edit;

I dont think your feedback is wrong, I just dont necesarily agree with it. If DE agrees with your obviously I would need to rethink/rejigg.

Last edited by Faven; 12 Jan, 2017 @ 7:55am
Mor7reD 12 Jan, 2017 @ 7:53am 
its perefect
xCO2 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:05am 
Now I really enjoy the helmet you've designed, but I think you should scrap the body and come back with a different approach. I think making use of a completely different texture like you did with the Ember would be a good way of doing this. Or taking more themes froma Ballista. Sticking with the original overcoat textures and reusing the same clothe as the Volt and other similar skins is a bit too bland and conforming. I've purchased a few of these including Volt, Ember, and a few others but this is one I wouldn't be interested in. Now this will probably get in the game, the helmet is great and your skins have a good following but for the integrity of the game and your work I really do think a total scrapping would be a good choice. Goodluck with your product in either of your decisions.
Ghosthound 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:10am 
Like the other say, some little more work would be great. the helmet is awesome so far, but the rest need some more work that it looks more like a grax skin. like ember or valkyr. but so far very good work ;)
@Faven_PS as @xCO2 & @gHOSThOUND said, There's no problem with the helmet, but the body is exactly the same as original just with a bit of changes, we are 3 now saying you need to rework the body, because it looks like only helmet skin. I have Saryn & volt skins, and I'm interested on the other grax skins, but this is not on my shooping list. Oh and a very nice idea for your skins will be add metal, people love metalic textures for details.
Last edited by ✘KittyLanahTV✘ ✓; 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:18am
Faven  [developer] 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:17am 
Originally posted by xCO2:
Now I really enjoy the helmet you've designed, but I think you should scrap the body and come back with a different approach. I think making use of a completely different texture like you did with the Ember would be a good way of doing this. Or taking more themes froma Ballista. Sticking with the original overcoat textures and reusing the same clothe as the Volt and other similar skins is a bit too bland and conforming. I've purchased a few of these including Volt, Ember, and a few others but this is one I wouldn't be interested in. Now this will probably get in the game, the helmet is great and your skins have a good following but for the integrity of the game and your work I really do think a total scrapping would be a good choice. Goodluck with your product in either of your decisions.


Scapping will never happen, if it gets rejected ill try to find out why and adress, if the feedback is scrapping the body ill just not bother with it;)
Faven  [developer] 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by PrivilegiusGaming ✔:
@Faven_PS as @xCO2 & @gHOSThOUND said, There's no problem with the helmet, but the body is exactly the same as original just with a bit of changes, we are 3 now saying you need to rework the body, because it looks like only helmet skin. I have Saryn & volt skins, and I'm interested on the other grax skins, but this is not on my shooping list. Oh and a very nice idea for your skins will be add metal, people love metalic textures for details.


I'm not above reworking parts/add detail of the body if thats needed. But it will never be a metal plated piece of work. Thats just not what im going for here.
xCO2 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Faven_PS:
Originally posted by PrivilegiusGaming ✔:
@Faven_PS as @xCO2 & @gHOSThOUND said, There's no problem with the helmet, but the body is exactly the same as original just with a bit of changes, we are 3 now saying you need to rework the body, because it looks like only helmet skin. I have Saryn & volt skins, and I'm interested on the other grax skins, but this is not on my shooping list. Oh and a very nice idea for your skins will be add metal, people love metalic textures for details.


I'm not above reworking parts/add detail of the body if thats needed. But it will never be a metal plated piece of work. Thats just not what im going for here.

I agree that a bunch of metal parts is not the direction for this one. I did like the addition of the texture on the forearm and the side packs, probably one of my favorite textures but it looks awkward with the amount added. Removing or adding more is where I think this should be taken.
Faven  [developer] 12 Jan, 2017 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by xCO2:
Originally posted by Faven_PS:


I'm not above reworking parts/add detail of the body if thats needed. But it will never be a metal plated piece of work. Thats just not what im going for here.

I agree that a bunch of metal parts is not the direction for this one. I did like the addition of the texture on the forearm and the side packs, probably one of my favorite textures but it looks awkward with the amount added. Removing or adding more is where I think this should be taken.

yeah thats def an alternative if needed, I was looking at adding that to the poncho part at some point but decided against it casue it felt wrong.


-AKEVA-BANSHEE- 12 Jan, 2017 @ 10:02am 
Is this modeled after star wars droids? Good design and work :)
Vulture 12 Jan, 2017 @ 10:02am 
I love it except for one part: REALLY not a fan of the elbow things.
Electrolite 12 Jan, 2017 @ 10:53am 
I agree with most people, helmet is awesome but i would love more changes in the body, I know it`s hard, just saying my toughts
Faven  [developer] 12 Jan, 2017 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Electrolite:
I agree with most people, helmet is awesome but i would love more changes in the body, I know it`s hard, just saying my toughts
it isnt really hard to add detail. I wouldnt mind adding detail if people feel thats missing.
(and given the option to do so)

What's hard is to make mesa not look like mesa. Volt/excal etc have very bland models, they are empty canvases where you can do a lot. Mesa not so much, so when people say "this doesnt look like X" thats not because I "forgott" about the 10+ other graxx skins I've done. It's simply because dressing a mesh like mesa in plates would look silly.
Marsdudes 12 Jan, 2017 @ 12:10pm 
I think nothing needs improvement

this is just, gold, probably the best skin I ever saw in Tennogen
Faven  [developer] 12 Jan, 2017 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by ⍙Nomi:
I think nothing needs improvement

this is just, gold, probably the best skin I ever saw in Tennogen


appreciate it, I am sure there's work to be done, I am happy with the choices i've made regarding material and direction, but ill see if theres something I can do to fix some of the critissm
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