Tried befriending them ?

I'm not even joking, fighting them really isn't worth it most of the time except for an early game boost if you get lucky or smart about manipulating the AI on the map.

If you have them friendly and set up your faction near them, they'll protect your castles better than any garrison you could leave behind.

That's a great idea but in all honesty, I have no idea how to befriend them. They don't let me aid them in battles and even the few times I did, they just attacked me the second the battle was over.

There are books sold by a guy in taverns that improve relation with the noldor.

You can also free noldor prisoners you find when defeating other armies (i advice to check the jatu, they are nearby and frequently have some), you can also help the Noldor whenever they are in battle, that'll improve relation.

You start at -30, but yours may have gotten worse if you fought them repeatedly, so it might be harder.

It's worth it tho, cause if you get high approval with them, you can visit their secret city and buy weapons and armor from them.

I see, thank you. You've been extremely helpful and truthfully, saved my playthrough.

It should also be noted that, if you intend to do a very long playthrough, befriending the Noldor (or wiping them out I think, but this is virtually impossible because of the fortress they have) is actually a required win condition to complete the game, that's how much the mod creator pushes you towards it.

Old General Crash is right. Follow his guide lines. Free prisoners and get those books as early as you can. Befriending the Noldor helps so much in the mod. Theyll protect everything near the woods and recruiting there troops is a game changer. They sell great items when u become friends as well. Their weapons are top tier. Also small faction to mention, The Barclay rifleman are also awesome to have. They work great on Defensive sieges.

Defeat Noldor, capture as many Noldor prisoners as you can and release them (make sure you use the right release option.) Save the books until you have a positive relation (use the capture and release tactic until then.)

Originally posted by Tregs:

Defeat Noldor, capture as many Noldor prisoners as you can and release them (make sure you use the right release option.) Save the books until you have a positive relation (use the capture and release tactic until then.)

Sometimes you don't need to fight the noldor. If you have castles or cities next to the Noldor forest, there is a strong chance that you would gain noldor prisoners from other parties that enter your city or castle.

Originally posted by Flooot!:

That's a great idea but in all honesty, I have no idea how to befriend them. They don't let me aid them in battles and even the few times I did, they just attacked me the second the battle was over.

Bait armies into their land and have them attack them ( Rogue armies like the snake cultists that spawn near are great for this) and then join the battle on Noldor side, bail immediately after the fight. Don't need to do much in these fights just participate and vibe with the Noldor battle track.

Can also find an NPC who is a big part of actually befriending them, giving him certain items will boost you up, but as Tregs says above releasing prisoners is the best way. Noldor don't lose reputation with you, IF THEY ATTACK YOU, and they cocky sounds of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, so finding an small noldor stack and overwhelming it to capture and release them all is a good idea. (You can also try to recruit them from prisoner too for some uber units).

Does joining the silvermist ranger change your relation with Noldors?

The silvermist rangers are friends with the Noldor but joining them doesnt change your relation with them.

Sad, it would be a nice interaction. Anyways, thanks for the answer . :)

Been awhile since I've played, but I never befriend the Noldor till I'm full up of Qualis gems for upgrading weapons and armor. One less army means 1 less chance to get a gem. Also they give the best gear for you and your companions.

Best way to fight them is with mounted troops on flat land. Dont fight them on the hills. Just draw them away form the hills. When your in battle tell your troops to hold fire and charge. Early game when you only have tavern troops/mercs I would got 2x more troops than the Noldor patrols.

Mid/late game you with your own knight order you can fight a Noldor army not just a patrol. But you have to cheez the game. To fight the Noldor army got to the options, choose the smallest size battle map and the smallest amount of troops that can be on the map.

If you think its too cheaty, my in universe justification is, you ambush a patrol to draw in an enemy to the battle ground of your choosing.