Hey,
I look forward to trying out your mod alongside this:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902287752&searchtext=
Any Chance of a compatibility patch / Fix?

This mod is incompatable with my own mod, Transcendant Ascendance: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902287752

Long story short: Loading both mods will use your maximum number of perks (12) with my perk UI. I made a perk-only version of my mod to help with compatability issues.

Long story long: Stellaris apparenatly has a priority loading system that takes the lowest number of ASCENSION_PERKS_SLOTS located in "defines" if more than one mod makes changes to it. Since Utopia Expanded sets this variable to 12 and Transcendant Ascendance sets this variable to 18, it uses 12. But it uses my UI file probably because it defines more UI elements. I dunno. It sucks.

So basically if you use both mods you'll see a perk slot layout of 1 row of 5, 1 row of 4, and 1 row of 1. Oh, and the repeatable tech I've added to gain 10 more perks becomes redundant.

The only real fix is to separate new perks and perk slots into different versions of the mod.

Fixed the conflict between UE and TA by renaming the UI and defines files to take precedendent while loading.

The only "incompatability" that remains is that both mods have repeatable techs that add perk points - your mod adds 4 and mine adds 10 - so using both mods will make 4 of those techs do nothing but waste research time. Everything else seems to work fine.

Originally posted by Saibak:

Fixed the conflict between UE and TA by renaming the UI and defines files to take precedendent while loading.

The only "incompatability" that remains is that both mods have repeatable techs that add perk points - your mod adds 4 and mine adds 10 - so using both mods will make 4 of those techs do nothing but waste research time. Everything else seems to work fine.

Thanks for getting this worked out - I was asleep! The tech issue can be fixed if I split off the repeatable tech entry into a new file and rename it to whatever your tech file is called. Then you do what you did with the UI elements and hey presto, whenever a user has TA and UE together, TA takes precedence and overwrites all the relevant files from UE. On a personal note, I feel that eighteen AP's is a bit OP, which is why I added the extra four to UE in the first place, instead of just referencing TA in the description of my mod as a Recommended mod to use with UE. Please let me know if you are happy to make these final changes to ensure complete compatibility.

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I have yet to test, but I am very positive this mod is incompatible with Megastructures Placement, as they both overwrite the same file. I'd love to use both mods since they do very different things and complement each other (this is mainly for players like me who are Core System purists and want to build as tall as inherently possible). I am unsure of how difficult it would be to compatibilize both, yet it would be great to have then hand-in-hand.

This mod is incompatible with Megastructure Placement https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=900785559

Originally posted by Endershadow:

This mod is incompatible with Megastructure Placement https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=900785559

Added to the list. Unfortunately it won't be possible for MSP to be made compatible with Utopa Expanded because each mod directly modifies the same files to accomplish broadly similar changes.

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

Thanks for getting this worked out - I was asleep! The tech issue can be fixed if I split off the repeatable tech entry into a new file and rename it to whatever your tech file is called. Then you do what you did with the UI elements and hey presto, whenever a user has TA and UE together, TA takes precedence and overwrites all the relevant files from UE. On a personal note, I feel that eighteen AP's is a bit OP, which is why I added the extra four to UE in the first place, instead of just referencing TA in the description of my mod as a Recommended mod to use with UE. Please let me know if you are happy to make these final changes to ensure complete compatibility.

Modifying the tech is on the back burner for now. What I'll probably end up doing when 1.5.1 is officially released is separate the repeatable tech into 10 distinct techs, each with a weight modifier that zeroes out the tech's chance to appear if you already have a specific number of ascension perks selected. Something like:


A tech with that modifier should only appear if you have twelve perks already chosen but less than thirteen. It'll at least prevent my mod from adding any redundant perk techs

As for 18 being too many I'm also likely going to bump up the research cost of each perk tech by a big percentage. You shouldn't get all 18 unless the game has lasted a pretty long time.

So far I tested your mod while using both perks from transcended ascendance and Plentiful Traditions Mod ( https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903007094 ) and everything seems to be working fine

But if I try using Utopia Expanded with New Ship Classes and More + Improved Space Battles + Compatiblity Patch there are two problems:
- segments from player-built ringworlds are off (but they fixed this issue with their yesterday patch)
- game crashes when finishing dyson ring

Originally posted by Velth:

So far I tested your mod while using both perks from transcended ascendance and Plentiful Traditions Mod ( https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=903007094 ) and everything seems to be working fine

But if I try using Utopia Expanded with New Ship Classes and More + Improved Space Battles + Compatiblity Patch there are two problems:
- segments from player-built ringworlds are off (but they fixed this issue with their yesterday patch)
- game crashes when finishing dyson ring

NSC and UE work fine together. I was using NSC when I tested the Dyson Ring and no crashes occurred. ISB therefore, has something dodgy going on, likely with entities and scaling. Unfortunately, this is not something that I can do anything about - the Dyson Ring uses vanilla assets, ISB makes some changes which somehow break the Dyson Ring, and it is their responsibility to come up with a patch.

might be a dumb question: is it compatible with
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=902701397 ?

Originally posted by Scarecrow:

...however Utopia Expanded does everything MSP does.

Does UE also allow for multiple megastructures to be built/upgraded at the same time? Personally, that's the only part of MSP that I wanted, otherwise I'd prefer to use your UE.
If UE does not currently do that, do you think you could add it?

How about Improved Space Battles? I know it bugs out with some other mod's ringworlds.

Originally posted by Archaon The Everchosen:

How about Improved Space Battles? I know it bugs out with some other mod's ringworlds.

I'm currently using ISB and the only ringworld that is bugged is the one from LEX. So I guess it's compatible with UE.