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Marryc 23 Nov, 2017 @ 1:05pm
Change the name of Sweden-Denmark
I've probably said something about this in the mod's comment section before, nevertheless I will make a thread about it.

The name of Sweden-Denmark (country) should be changed to something more accurate. I assume you (the mod creator) is A: Combining Sweden-Norway and Denmark, or B: Combining Denmark-Norway and Sweden. My question is: Where did "Norway" go?
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Norway was already part of the Danish kingdom at that point. Austria-Hungary contains more than just those countries.
Marryc 28 Nov, 2017 @ 7:12am 
Norway never became a part of Denmark, it was a personal union. Aka. Norway and Denmark got ruled by the same monarchy. Norway and Denmark were basically seperate countries

E: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark%E2%80%93Norway


Originally posted by De~Yupuro Roasted_Cat:
Norway was already part of the Danish kingdom at that point. Austria-Hungary contains more than just those countries.
Marryc 28 Nov, 2017 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by General Runtime:
People think Balkan people are over the top with petty nationalism but Scandinavians are definitely worse

e: maybe that's just because more of them know English though

Well: Norway gained independence from the wanna-be empire of Denmark, and the kingdom of Sweden about 200 years ago, which isn't that long. Probably why we (norwegians at least) are so nationalistic
Sea Raider 11 Dec, 2017 @ 8:10am 
I think a name related to the Kalmar Union more fitting, it should be more focused on Denmark than Sweden. Why? Well, Sweden lost the Napoleonic Wars whilst Denmark won, something they would have used to their advantage due to Sweden's clear weakness; they lost Finland to Russia and were on the losing side of the Napoleonic Wars, and Napoleon would most likely allow Denmark to take as much Swedish land as they wanted. Why? The king of Scandanavia is Gustav V, a descendant of Karl XIV Johan, Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, who upon accepting the position of Crown Price of Sweden was forced by Napoleon into acceding to the Continental System or face an attack by not only France, but Russia and Denmark too, and thus Sweden was forced into declaring war against Britain. But in 1812 Napoleon invaded the Swedish holdings in Germany ((on Karl's birthday to add further insult)) before invading Russia, so he opened up negotations with Britain and would eventually join the Sixth Coalition.

Now, I can't say how events after 1809 would have played out, but Finland must have been lost to Russia and Bernadotte must've been offered the position of Crown Prince of Sweden, but if the Sixth Coalition lost the war, Sweden would have been on the losing side. Denmark would have returned to power and they would have been the leading force, as well as royal house, of the kingdom shown in this mod.

Alternatively; you could go for something like the Kingdom of Scandinavia as a show of unification as well as Scandinavism.
Marryc 13 Dec, 2017 @ 11:51am 
Originally posted by Random Volksgrenadier:
I think a name related to the Kalmar Union more fitting, it should be more focused on Denmark than Sweden. Why? Well, Sweden lost the Napoleonic Wars whilst Denmark won, something they would have used to their advantage due to Sweden's clear weakness; they lost Finland to Russia and were on the losing side of the Napoleonic Wars, and Napoleon would most likely allow Denmark to take as much Swedish land as they wanted. Why? The king of Scandanavia is Gustav V, a descendant of Karl XIV Johan, Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte, who upon accepting the position of Crown Price of Sweden was forced by Napoleon into acceding to the Continental System or face an attack by not only France, but Russia and Denmark too, and thus Sweden was forced into declaring war against Britain. But in 1812 Napoleon invaded the Swedish holdings in Germany ((on Karl's birthday to add further insult)) before invading Russia, so he opened up negotations with Britain and would eventually join the Sixth Coalition.

Now, I can't say how events after 1809 would have played out, but Finland must have been lost to Russia and Bernadotte must've been offered the position of Crown Prince of Sweden, but if the Sixth Coalition lost the war, Sweden would have been on the losing side. Denmark would have returned to power and they would have been the leading force, as well as royal house, of the kingdom shown in this mod.

Alternatively; you could go for something like the Kingdom of Scandinavia as a show of unification as well as Scandinavism.

I just want a name that includes all three nations. "Sweden-Denmark" doesn't include Norway whatsoever, it looks past the fact that Denmark never owned Norway. The danish monarch owned Norway, not the danish state. Norway is basically ignored and classified as a part of Denmark. It's not accurate.
Last edited by Marryc; 13 Dec, 2017 @ 11:53am
Sea Raider 13 Dec, 2017 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by _Mark_:
I just want a name that includes all three nations. "Sweden-Denmark" doesn't include Norway whatsoever, it looks past the fact that Denmark never owned Norway. The danish monarch owned Norway, not the danish state. Norway is basically ignored and classified as a part of Denmark. It's not accurate.
You could always open the files and change it yourself, if that's the case. It's very easy to do and doesn't take much time, though if you want a name that includes all Scandinavian countries then something like the "Kingdom of Scandinavia" would be more proper, or just the Kalmar Union to show off Denmark-Norway's victory in the Napoleonic Wars alongside the French.
mcwildtaz 5 Jan, 2018 @ 7:56pm 
Originally posted by De~Yupuro Roasted_Cat:
Norway was already part of the Danish kingdom at that point. Austria-Hungary contains more than just those countries.
well, the austro-hungarian empire was made up of the austrian empire and the hungarian empire, but those empires were made of more empires
nosaucespaghetti 19 Jan, 2018 @ 12:48pm 
i actually want to change the name but i want to know the numbered name of the file so i dont waste a few hours
Marryc 20 Jan, 2018 @ 6:00am 
Originally posted by wildtazYT:
Originally posted by De~Yupuro Roasted_Cat:
Norway was already part of the Danish kingdom at that point. Austria-Hungary contains more than just those countries.
well, the austro-hungarian empire was made up of the austrian empire and the hungarian empire, but those empires were made of more empires

Yeah, but Norway wasn't ever a part of Denmark. They were just ruled by the same monarch.
nosaucespaghetti 20 Jan, 2018 @ 7:56am 
..In the description of Sweden-Denmark,it says 'a united kingdom of sweden,denmark,and norway' which means its like the UK,the two main ones are most recognized while Norway (the wales of this) is mostly ignored,so it could become the United Kingdom of the North,United Kingdom of Kalmar,United Kingdom of Scandinavia,or United Kingdom of Denmark,Sweden,and Norway.
Marryc 20 Jan, 2018 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Österreichischer Soldat:
..In the description of Sweden-Denmark,it says 'a united kingdom of sweden,denmark,and norway' which means its like the UK,the two main ones are most recognized while Norway (the wales of this) is mostly ignored,so it could become the United Kingdom of the North,United Kingdom of Kalmar,United Kingdom of Scandinavia,or United Kingdom of Denmark,Sweden,and Norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIo0sZ6V6YI

You breaka' ma' heart Soldat, you breaka' ma' heart
nosaucespaghetti 20 Jan, 2018 @ 10:54am 
Originally posted by _Mark_:
Originally posted by Österreichischer Soldat:
..In the description of Sweden-Denmark,it says 'a united kingdom of sweden,denmark,and norway' which means its like the UK,the two main ones are most recognized while Norway (the wales of this) is mostly ignored,so it could become the United Kingdom of the North,United Kingdom of Kalmar,United Kingdom of Scandinavia,or United Kingdom of Denmark,Sweden,and Norway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIo0sZ6V6YI

You breaka' ma' heart Soldat, you breaka' ma' heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE1FrqheQNI
Lupus Sacerdos 19 May, 2018 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by _Mark_:
Originally posted by General Runtime:
People think Balkan people are over the top with petty nationalism but Scandinavians are definitely worse

e: maybe that's just because more of them know English though

Can confirm, all of us on Balkans are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and can't even write. Its not like civilisation got from middle east to Grecce to Balkans and Italy and than to Western Europe. Same Balkans that produced some of the finest Roman Imperators. But, you are right we don't have schools here, because NATO bombed them all.
Should be called Swedenmark
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