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Breakdowns 23 Dec, 2022 @ 5:54pm
Has Darktide Written Itself Into A Corner? Story Discussion
A lot has been said about the... brevity of the game's plot. But I'm curious about the room for growth in the future considering the setting and where you end up by the time you hit 30.

To get anyone who hasn't finished yet up to speed (spoilers ahead, obviously):

We're all fighting on Tertium, a hive city of billions, that's been infected by Nurgle, a kind of pestilence god. By the end of the story (such that it is) there is no mention of any progress whatsoever in purging Nurgle or his believers so it seems we'll be here for quite awhile, at least one DLC's worth of content perhaps.

At level 30, you also more or less join the Inquisition (or are at least seen as a trusted asset to them). The Inquisition are basically the Imperium's secret police, a la the Nazi's SS, and their job is to root out suspected traitors and perform special operations on the field. It doesn't get much more blindly fascist and bigoted than them. They hate mutants, distrust but will use psykers, and haaaaaate aliens.

So, where will we go from here? It seems like we'll be on Tertium for quite awhile, probably fighting Nurgle's goons, and because we're working so closely with the Inquisition we're not likely going to be able to make any kind of alien character since the Inquisition tends to kill them on sight. In-game dialogue suggests to me that most narrative paths you can choose from are at least sympathetic to the Imperium (or are outright fanatics) so it doesn't seem likely that we'll betray them or have any opportunity to go off-world.

In Vermintide 2, the narrative was careful to make the Ubersreik Five diverse by making their formation something of an accident. You end up with 3 humans, one of whom is a mage, a dwarf, and an elf by circumstance. In Darktide, this doesn't seem all that possible in the near-future. The Inquisition simply won't work with a non-human.

TL;DR:

How long until we're fighting Orks or the T'au? It doesn't seem likely that we'll be leaving Tertium anytime soon. Will aliens attack the hive city at exactly the same time that Nurgle's goons are occupying it? How long until we'll be able to make non-human character? The Inquisition basically makes this impossible. Will we always been bound to be fanatics of the Imperium?

It seems to me that the only answer here is for our betters at the Inquisition to see fit to send us off-world for some reason to do... something. At that point we could, say, get separated and be forced to work with aliens, which will open up the group to the possibility of working against the Imperium. But that's one possibility of many.

Naturally, I invite any lore buffs who know of exceptions or places where I'm just wrong to jump in. I'm still learning Warhammer 40k lore.

What do you think?
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Beatbeat Goodbeat 23 Dec, 2022 @ 5:55pm 
What story?
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Riepah 23 Dec, 2022 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by Beatbeat Goodbeat:
What story?
Good post, Reject. Now go make more good posts and maybe someday I'll think you aren't trash. I'll send someone else to tell you the same thing once you've made a few more.
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Sea Base 23 Dec, 2022 @ 5:59pm 
It's my understanding that the story will be delivered to us 'seasonally'... as in, we only have access to the introduction right now.

There is no reason for us to be sent off, the Inquisitor has no idea what is going on on Tertium so will need to stay to resolve the situation.
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Blaze Shadowflame 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:03pm 
Only way I can really see the story moving forward as it is would be to climb the ranks of the inquisition. We've proven we are loyal, now we keep going up the ladder until Rannick decides it would be beneficial to have us in the war room whenever something is planned, then on to becoming some kind of officer. Maybe we'll even get some of that special-issue ammo?
Last edited by Blaze Shadowflame; 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:06pm
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bird demon from hell 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Good post, Reject. Now go make more good posts and maybe someday I'll think you aren't trash. I'll send someone else to tell you the same thing once you've made a few more.
It's come to my attention that you're good at posting, reject. Excellent, the warband has need of your skills. Return once you've proven yourself useful.
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Beatbeat Goodbeat 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by Wales Grey:
Originally posted by Riepah:
Good post, Reject. Now go make more good posts and maybe someday I'll think you aren't trash. I'll send someone else to tell you the same thing once you've made a few more.
It's come to my attention that you're good at posting, reject. Excellent, the warband has need of your skills. Return once you've proven yourself useful.
You've made a name for yourself with your posts, Reject. You are starting to earn my trust.
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Judge Lazar 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:12pm 
Here's the thing. There's some very important plot details in the idle conversations during missions and on the Mourningstar. I believe that Morrow is the REAL traitor on the ship. He has had A LOT of exposure to Chaos and the warp. On the Mourningstar one of the other characters will tell Morrow that his men have repeatedly gone into restricted areas, he brushes it off saying something along the lines of "I'll handle it"

Now, the interesting part. On the Mourningstar you will hear a call over the P.A. about xenos sightings in the lowest levels of the hive. I believe that the other hive city mentioned in conversations was taken over by a Genestealer cult and they have begun infiltrating Tertium. GSC is the only entity that makes sense. Their whole schtick is that they are very covert and can appear as normal as anyone else. I believe the xenos sightings are cultists who have started mutating. I would bet that the first major DLC is going to revolve around the cult being discovered in Tertium which will lead to the Rejects being sent to the other hive to kill the cult patriacrh.

A key background detail is that the Imperium fully understands that there is a distinction between chaos things and xenos things. If it was just more chaos entities mentioned in the lowest levels of the hive, the announcement would not say xenos. Orks, Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, pretty much every single faction outside of the Imperium and the Tyranids/GSC wouldn't be trying to infiltrate the hive quietly, they'd just attack from orbit. Add to that the fact that in Space Marine 2 you'll be fighting Tyranids. I think there will be a marketing crossover when Space Marine 2 launches, that's when Darktide will have the GSC DLC.

Disclaimer: This is all speculation on my part but I'm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nerd and I've thought about it a lot and a Genestealer cult is literally the only faction that makes sense to have taken the other hive city and trying to infiltrate Tertium.
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Breakdowns 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Judge Lazar:
Here's the thing. There's some very important plot details in the idle conversations during missions and on the Mourningstar. I believe that Morrow is the REAL traitor on the ship. He has had A LOT of exposure to Chaos and the warp. On the Mourningstar one of the other characters will tell Morrow that his men have repeatedly gone into restricted areas, he brushes it off saying something along the lines of "I'll handle it"

Now, the interesting part. On the Mourningstar you will hear a call over the P.A. about xenos sightings in the lowest levels of the hive. I believe that the other hive city mentioned in conversations was taken over by a Genestealer cult and they have begun infiltrating Tertium. GSC is the only entity that makes sense. Their whole schtick is that they are very covert and can appear as normal as anyone else. I believe the xenos sightings are cultists who have started mutating. I would bet that the first major DLC is going to revolve around the cult being discovered in Tertium which will lead to the Rejects being sent to the other hive to kill the cult patriacrh.

A key background detail is that the Imperium fully understands that there is a distinction between chaos things and xenos things. If it was just more chaos entities mentioned in the lowest levels of the hive, the announcement would not say xenos. Orks, Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, pretty much every single faction outside of the Imperium and the Tyranids/GSC wouldn't be trying to infiltrate the hive quietly, they'd just attack from orbit. Add to that the fact that in Space Marine 2 you'll be fighting Tyranids. I think there will be a marketing crossover when Space Marine 2 launches, that's when Darktide will have the GSC DLC.

Disclaimer: This is all speculation on my part but I'm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nerd and I've thought about it a lot and a Genestealer cult is literally the only faction that makes sense to have taken the other hive city and trying to infiltrate Tertium.

This is extremely cool. And because I haven't gotten to the Tyranids yet in my lore reading I never would have thought of this! Much appreciated.
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Breakdowns 23 Dec, 2022 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by Mean Breen Machine:
Originally posted by Judge Lazar:
Now, the interesting part. On the Mourningstar you will hear a call over the P.A. about xenos sightings in the lowest levels of the hive. I believe that the other hive city mentioned in conversations was taken over by a Genestealer cult and they have begun infiltrating Tertium. GSC is the only entity that makes sense. Their whole schtick is that they are very covert and can appear as normal as anyone else. I believe the xenos sightings are cultists who have started mutating. I would bet that the first major DLC is going to revolve around the cult being discovered in Tertium which will lead to the Rejects being sent to the other hive to kill the cult patriacrh.

A key background detail is that the Imperium fully understands that there is a distinction between chaos things and xenos things. If it was just more chaos entities mentioned in the lowest levels of the hive, the announcement would not say xenos. Orks, Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, pretty much every single faction outside of the Imperium and the Tyranids/GSC wouldn't be trying to infiltrate the hive quietly, they'd just attack from orbit. Add to that the fact that in Space Marine 2 you'll be fighting Tyranids. I think there will be a marketing crossover when Space Marine 2 launches, that's when Darktide will have the GSC DLC.

Disclaimer: This is all speculation on my part but I'm a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ nerd and I've thought about it a lot and a Genestealer cult is literally the only faction that makes sense to have taken the other hive city and trying to infiltrate Tertium.

Quoted because it's worth reading twicethrice. Where do we go, though, after Genestealer Cults are introduced? Is fighting Nurglite trash and Genestealer mobs the extent of our power level as characters? Will we see Nurglite Cultists fighting Genestealer Cultists in a three-way war with the Inquisition?

I guess this would depend on how successful the game allows us to be?

If Vermintide is anything to go by, we could easily end up in a situation where the problems on Tertium are never solved and some other problem pops up. Probably Orks. So we'd be queuing up for maps where we could be fighting any one of numerous enemy factions because nothing is ever going to get solved.
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Moffin Bovin 23 Dec, 2022 @ 7:42pm 
Originally posted by Jigabachi:
How long until we're fighting Orks or the T'au?

about the same amount of time that it took Orcs to show up in l4d2
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T-Rex 23 Dec, 2022 @ 7:53pm 
Although its a cool idea. I hope we get more of a change of environment. (Though content wise it would be easier for them to make more hive looking levels. Anyway, once we move up the ranks I want to go visit alien planets and purge all types of xenos. Drop me down into the middle of a war where space marines are fighting and we're just some of the fodder.
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rougesforhire 23 Dec, 2022 @ 8:11pm 
Hey op, I have to disagree with you about your statements in regards to the difficulty of rolling a xenos character. The inquisition is definitely not above drafting xenos into their retinue, but usually only do so when they actually understand said xenos' expertise in a particular field. Examples include Jokaero weaponsmiths, the harlequin that worked short term with the mc in Warhammer: Inquisitor, heck there's even inquisitor Eisenhorn who has a literal demon host in his retinue (highly, HIGHLY looked down upon by almost all other inquisitors but still there.) I think I've seen a few mentions of inquisitors that have employed Ork Freebotas as well as other mercenary Xenos like Kroot and Vespids.
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Beatbeat Goodbeat 23 Dec, 2022 @ 8:18pm 
Gonna get some squats i reckon
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poppindancers 23 Dec, 2022 @ 8:20pm 
Again, what story?
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Anus Wizard 23 Dec, 2022 @ 9:08pm 
I hate to say this but the only things they're goona put in this turd is paid skins ansd others paid stuff. Have you ever heard of Eternal Crusade ? A ton of promises, none respected. It was promised an open world 40k it ends up an arena shooters and then ? Free to play, and they gave a small amount of paid currency for those who brought the game full price.
See where this is going ?
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