How can I change your mind if there are no argument in the first place? Posting a statement does not make it an argument though.

Arbitrator has no sniper builds and can't even take the weapons that are exclusive to the Veteran.

How is it "free" if you have to pay the retail price of the base game to access it.

Vets:
1. A bit less than 360% ammo for team per 30 minutes havoc with their 1% per 5 sec ammo regeneration
2. 50 golden toughness for 15 seconds and boss stagger once per 30 seconds -6 seconds per disabler
3. Can buff boss damage by 32% and also gives constant 7.5%-10% damage buff with keystone
4. Some other less important team buffs - when they restore toughness their allies get 15% of it, can improve med and ammo packs, and can give allies 15% toughness and 20% damage buff for 3 sec when vet shots something near them
5. Vets can get grenade per minute and with 5% per elite which died from somewhere in coherency, this results in amasing amount of frag/krak grenades on havoc and also vet can constantly have team in smoke
6. Better in shooting than any other class

Bad things on vets:
1. Not tanky
2. Big part of skill tree is annoying to use
3. Everyone expects 1 build from you

Arbites:
1. More tanky
2. Explosive dog once per minute or shock mine once per minute without dog, dog is usefull and shock mine can do magic unless some smite-happy psyker constantly staggers everything without thinking
3. Stronger melee
4. Nuncio aquila - cheap version of zealot chorus, except zealots have constant 200% cooldown regeneration speed and arbites have just +50% on one of keystones

Bad things on arbites:
1. Team support, people often don't even take anything for this in their builds, and thats like -1 player from default team which we had before arbites
Thats pretty much all i guess, and also you are wrong in comparing paid tanky and more team-supportive version of zealot stealth loner with a veteran

veteran is best imo as a support role dedicated - obviously he can push too - this makes him very fun. arbitrator on the other hand, is a close range tank

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Change my mind

The game costs about $40, so the Veteran ain't free. XD

Next update: Nuncio aquilla provides golden toughness and dog can now scavenge for ammunition and brings it to the lowest ammo party member.

Originally posted by ゲ-で:

Veteran is a "free" trial version of Arbitator
Change my mind

The Veteran shares no abilities or playstyles with the Arbites. Comparing them is comparing apples to oranges.

And if you want a more sophisticated argument, you will need to put in more effort into your opening posts.

i prefer veteran