Originally posted by Anonyma:

Why allow some fringe karens to dictate the word of the people?
Please stop this payment processing overreach. it is anti consumer, authoritarian and evil censorship. Sure it's for a good reason now but that's how they all started, it sets a precedent. The slippery slope of censorship.... how do we still need to explain this to people?! do you not learn from history?!

Yup, it starts with the banning of books from schools and just escalates from there.

They're not allowed. They merely gave the payment processor executives an idea how to do what they do best and like doing the most: make the lives of the "rabble" miserable. Those executive hate the "Karens" as much as us. But it's not their turn to feel that hate yet.

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?
And stop blaming everything you don't like on women. Censorship is traditionally the realm of the far-right.

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?

I would prefer they say no to the payment processors and expose their workings to their customers. Steam is being extorted here, ''if you don't listen to us we pull our resources''. That should be exposed, not facilitated. If it's not outright illegal mafia practices.
Steam can just offer crypto payments and we don't have to deal with the vultures.

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?

In places where it's necessary? Sure. In places like the US where there's no legal obligation to age-gate artistic works? They don't have to.

Originally posted by Anonyma:

I would prefer they say no to the payment processors and expose their workings to their customers. Steam is being extorted here, ''if you don't listen to us we pull our resources''. That should be exposed, not facilitated. If it's not outright illegal mafia practices.
Steam can just offer crypto payments and we don't have to deal with the vultures.

Valve wouldn't have enough resources to outlast their opponents during the legal battle. Most of the casuals would switch over to game stores like Epic at the mere hint of the inconvenience of not being able to pay using their credit cards.

Originally posted by Anonyma:

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?

I would prefer they say no to the payment processors and expose their workings to their customers. Steam is being extorted here, ''if you don't listen to us we pull our resources''. That should be exposed, not facilitated. If it's not outright illegal mafia practices.
Steam can just offer crypto payments and we don't have to deal with the vultures.

It's not illegal, and there is nothing to Valve to expose. And crypto is unregulated scam garbage, Spanky, and all the techbros coming out of the woodwork thinking something like this is going to usher in the golden age of crytoscam are very sadly mistaken. They can head back to mommy's basement and continue to play with their Monopoly money.

those karens are just scapegoats. this is looking to me like payment processor cartels are exerting the power that they have. i don't know what sort of financial gain they hope to achieve from this, though. someone enlighten me

Originally posted by fruit flavored ENERGY DRINK:

those karens are just scapegoats. this is looking to me like payment processor cartels are exerting the power that they have. i don't know what sort of financial gain they hope to achieve from this, though. someone enlighten me

It is a litmus test for seeing how effective this strategy can be. If it is, it can be applied in a much more intensive manner to hurt the competition of their owning entities and associated companies.

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?
And stop blaming everything you don't like on women. Censorship is traditionally the realm of the far-right.

The group has publicly taken responsibility for it, and Itch.io have publicly pointed the finger at them BY NAME. There is no point in trying to gaslight about it at this point.

Originally posted by Anonyma:

Why allow some fringe karens to dictate the word of the people?

Exactly, which we can start here. Best of luck, blocked, etc.

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?
And stop blaming everything you don't like on women. Censorship is traditionally the realm of the far-right.

This isn't about the kids ITS NEVER about the kids when it comes to bans on porn.

It's just the puritans putting the boot down on your neck.

Originally posted by Pocahawtness:

Steam has to dance a fine line here. Would you prefer that they introduce tough new age verification?
And stop blaming everything you don't like on women. Censorship is traditionally the realm of the far-right.

Women can be far right too and the group responsible for this mess call themselves feminists and - shocker - are women.

That aside, every extremism censors undesireable content. China and the GDR for example do/did a lot of censoreship, so does religion like the Islam does.

It's amusing to me how much people are trying to atribute this stuff to the far right as if the past few decades haven't been entirely in the domain of the likes of Aneeta Sarkeesian and her brainwashed followers. The only resurgence of satanic panic I've seen was some idiots trying to simp for Melonie Mac and she has not made headlines since.