High end PC and have microstuttering 9800x3d + rx9070xt
I’m experiencing micro stutters in all games, and it’s really frustrating. I’m asking for help. Below is my component list. I’ve tried everything — drivers are up to date, I’ve even reinstalled Windows. I’ve tested with EXPO both enabled and disabled. I even tried undervolting the CPU, but nothing changed.

The system is stable. It passes stress tests. Essentially, all components are functioning as they should, but still, whenever I move in-game — even in just one direction — I get occasional, clearly visible stutters.

Please share any suggestions or possible solutions, because I’m honestly starting to lose my mind. I’ve been dealing with this issue for over 2 months.

FPS limiting didn’t help either.

https://images.app.goo.gl/u64dQm1P4yFAZVHa9


Deepcool, CH560 Digital WH, Tempered Glass, White

GIGABYTE, AORUS ELITE P1000W ICE, 1000W, 80PLUS Platinum, PCIe 5.0

Gigabyte, X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 ICE

AMD, Ryzen 7 9800X3D (8C/16T, 4.70 GHz, 96MB Cache, 120W)

Arctic, Liquid Freezer III Pro 360 ARGB White

G.SKILL, Trident Z5 Neo RGB (AMD EXPO), DDR5, 32GB, 6000MHz, CL30, Kit of 2

Sapphire, Radeon RX 9070 XT, 16GB GDDR6, PURE

Samsung, 990 PRO, 2TB, M.2 Gen4 x4
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Rod 1 Jul @ 11:52am 
Learn to debloat and system optimize. Google what each setting does it is literally an impossible task someone can post and say here is the settings to stop this. You need to learn and its very likely your own mistake led to this stutter.


Why do i say that? Because normal systems have no microstutter. Therefor you or a software has messed up. Start removing all un needed software like mouse keyboard and AIO software and only the basic drivers and game should be installed and tweaked.
Monk 1 Jul @ 12:04pm 
Welcome to the AMDip, it doesn't exist remember!
Peter 1 Jul @ 1:11pm 
Apparently AMDip is a myth, perpetuated by.....none other than AMD users like yourself.
Originally posted by Rod:
Learn to debloat and system optimize. Google what each setting does it is literally an impossible task someone can post and say here is the settings to stop this. You need to learn and its very likely your own mistake led to this stutter.


Why do i say that? Because normal systems have no microstutter. Therefor you or a software has messed up. Start removing all un needed software like mouse keyboard and AIO software and only the basic drivers and game should be installed and tweaked.


I didn't messed up, I did clean installation, without any software for mouse or keyboard or AIO, had basic drivers.
Lixire 1 Jul @ 1:54pm 
Originally posted by Monk:
Welcome to the AMDip, it doesn't exist remember!

what is AMDip tho?
I'm running a 7800X3D with a 5080 yet the system is just as smooth as the i9 12900HK laptop next to me

People kept on yelling "E cores increase latency" on Alder and Raptor Lake. nothing happened in my experience
"AMDip" or whatever nonsense is this? also nothing at all
Biohaze 1 Jul @ 1:55pm 
My 14600K is a lot smoother than my 5800X3D was.
1. Check for BIOS updates

If that doesn't work or isn't an option:

2. Try adjusting C-states from auto to enabled

And see if it resolves.

Edit: Reminder that CPU is only officially compatible with Windows 11 *
Last edited by AmaiAmai; 1 Jul @ 2:07pm
Peter 1 Jul @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by Lixire:
Originally posted by Monk:
Welcome to the AMDip, it doesn't exist remember!

what is AMDip tho?

"AMDip" or whatever nonsense is this? also nothing at all

Lol, it was answered in the first half of the first sentence.....but but but it's nothing right!!!!

Originally posted by VictoryT:
I’m experiencing micro stutters in ALL games
Monk 1 Jul @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Lixire:
Originally posted by Monk:
Welcome to the AMDip, it doesn't exist remember!

what is AMDip tho?
I'm running a 7800X3D with a 5080 yet the system is just as smooth as the i9 12900HK laptop next to me

People kept on yelling "E cores increase latency" on Alder and Raptor Lake. nothing happened in my experience
"AMDip" or whatever nonsense is this? also nothing at all

It's a jokey term given to the, way ryzen tends to have more frequent micro stutters or dips than intel, tends to ocour mostly in 'large' open world games.

Your systems will suffer dips and stutters, every system does, some people are more susceptible to noticing these tiny drops than others are, it's just they tend to be more frequent on the 3dvcache cpu's in large games, in small stuff and most e sports it doesn't tend to be an issue as much.

One place you'll find it very bad is in stuff like cod warzone.

On the other hand, your max and minimum fps numbers are great and above Intel, infact Intel needs expensive high end chips, mobo and memory all tuned to even get close to a 9800x3d's numbers, which is why AMD tends to make more sense these days, you just gave one itsy bitsy downside many refuse to acknowledge, though, the issye is VERY much improved with the latest generation and I suspect will be gone entirely in the next one or 2.

If you don't notice stutters or micro-stutters, be happy, thry drive me and many crazy.
Try using process lasso to see if it helps, but it's a longshot.
VictoryT 1 Jul @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by emoticorpse:
Try using process lasso to see if it helps, but it's a longshot.

tried
Any overlays active? Try a non steam game if possible?

See if anything is maxing out. Vram, system ram, etc...

990 pro gets pretty hot but shouldn't be that.

Using anything like msi afterburner? Turn off gpu power monitoring.

Any background apps running? Wallpaper engine.

Any back ground recording apps?

Any rgb software?

See what's in task manager start up.

Any secondary drives failing like a hdd?
Last edited by Set-115689; 1 Jul @ 11:32pm
r.linder 2 Jul @ 12:23am 
It's probably because of the fabled "AMDip" that AMD fanboys swear doesn't exist yet it's been proven that it does, it's just a term that Frame Chasers came up with for the phenomenon with most, if not all AMD Ryzen systems.

I've seen countless threads from Ryzen users complaining about frequent microstutters or even full on stutters on reddit, steam forums, and other web forums, it's a common issue among Ryzen CPUs where they just can't maintain their performance metrics and it's probably related to the fact that AMD's silicon can vary quite widely and they push SKUs more or less to the limit out of the factory even if it takes extra voltage with some versus others as is the case for silicon lottery. I believe it is possible to alleviate it by tweaking settings in BIOS to make things more consistent as I've done that before with a 3900X and it did help.

A lot of eSports professionals switched from AMD back to Intel because of AMDip, it was just more hassle than they wanted to deal with.
Lixire 2 Jul @ 1:31am 
Originally posted by Monk:
Originally posted by Lixire:

what is AMDip tho?
I'm running a 7800X3D with a 5080 yet the system is just as smooth as the i9 12900HK laptop next to me

People kept on yelling "E cores increase latency" on Alder and Raptor Lake. nothing happened in my experience
"AMDip" or whatever nonsense is this? also nothing at all

It's a jokey term given to the, way ryzen tends to have more frequent micro stutters or dips than intel, tends to ocour mostly in 'large' open world games.

Your systems will suffer dips and stutters, every system does, some people are more susceptible to noticing these tiny drops than others are, it's just they tend to be more frequent on the 3dvcache cpu's in large games, in small stuff and most e sports it doesn't tend to be an issue as much.

One place you'll find it very bad is in stuff like cod warzone.

On the other hand, your max and minimum fps numbers are great and above Intel, infact Intel needs expensive high end chips, mobo and memory all tuned to even get close to a 9800x3d's numbers, which is why AMD tends to make more sense these days, you just gave one itsy bitsy downside many refuse to acknowledge, though, the issye is VERY much improved with the latest generation and I suspect will be gone entirely in the next one or 2.

If you don't notice stutters or micro-stutters, be happy, thry drive me and many crazy.

It unironically sounds like everything I had with the i9 9900K after all of the security mitigations it got over the years and made my main game (ffxiv) practically unplayable and to the point I noticed stutters in the Windows desktop which made me switch over to the 7800x3d over a year ago
C1REX 2 Jul @ 1:46am 
Originally posted by VictoryT:
It passes stress tests. Essentially, all components are functioning as they should, but still, whenever I move in-game — even in just one direction — I get occasional, clearly visible stutters.

Please share any suggestions or possible solutions, because I’m honestly starting to lose my mind. I’ve been dealing with this issue for over 2 months.

FPS limiting didn’t help either.

https://images.app.goo.gl/u64dQm1P4yFAZVHa9

This is very bad and definitely not normal for your hardware.

Do you play on a mouse and keyboard?
Test camera movements on a controller
to determine if it causes the same stutter. Mouse caused stutters are not that rare.

Other things to check:

- make sure you don’t use AFMF and anti lag. Both can make frame pacing bad. Anti lag in particular.

- make sure you have FreeSync/VRR on.
- no daisy chain connection from the PSU. Especially on the CPU side.
- test with Smart Access Memory activated/deactivated.
- test without expo and no PBO
- close all background app - including monitoring software to see if they don’t cause stutters.
- make sure there is no recording functionality on in adrenalin. It shouldn’t normally cause problems but can on a damaged windows.

You can also check some video benchmarks on YT. Your setup is very popular so you can check tons of games and frame time graphs.
If there is no dips for others then there is an issue on your side.

And a frame limiter is almost always a good idea to flatten a frame time graph. Your hardware should be able to hold a perfectly flat line without any dips.
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