Did Hardware Unboxed make a mistake?
Here is a video from Hardware Unboxed:

https://youtu.be/aWfMibZ8t00?si=Zaw-otesvxkLu-k8

However, it seems to be misleading as nobody could confirm any meaningful difference between the newest and review GPU drivers. Only in some games and mostly in lows but nothing as dramatic.

They now need to find out why they got such a big difference.
Was it windows? Chipset drivers? Different GPU AIB with better cooling? Different testing PC? Or a mistake?
And is the 9070xt truly faster than the 5070ti at 1440p in these games?
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It is possible to gain a small boost as Ryzen Chipset Drivers update over time yes but for the GPU that's not much of a factor. As long as the CPU is configured properly in BIOS. Also reviews really need to show some test with SMT on/off and things like that. In some games it's no difference but in some it can be a huge difference. The GPU Adrenaline Drivers have matured quite a bit in last 6-12 months especially where Win11 is concerned. However you do have to spend some time tweaking Win11 better for gaming. Probably more so then Win10 because of all the embedded online crap Win11 has to disable and such to help ensure best overall performance for everything gaming
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; 10 hours ago
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Chipset drivers and windows optimisation doesn’t explain why 9070xt was slower than 5070ti on release but is faster now. It should affect both GPUs equally.

Using different brands with different level of overclocking and cooling seems more likely to me. But even then the difference of over 20% in some games seems way too big.

Well, I’m pretty sure they will investigate and make a follow up video explaining the situation.
He once thought an update got him 30% more performance, the guys a bit of a joke like most of tech tube once you know the basics of hardware.

Would be more reliable if he actually played games instead of just running a benchmark suite.
Originally posted by C1REX:
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:

Chipset drivers and windows optimisation doesn’t explain why 9070xt was slower than 5070ti on release but is faster now. It should affect both GPUs equally.

Using different brands with different level of overclocking and cooling seems more likely to me. But even then the difference of over 20% in some games seems way too big.

Well, I’m pretty sure they will investigate and make a follow up video explaining the situation.

Because some of those RTX 50 series GPUs are handicapped by design plain and simple
Last edited by Bad 💀 Motha; 10 hours ago
Originally posted by DefinitelyNotMonk:
He once thought an update got him 30% more performance, the guys a bit of a joke like most of tech tube once you know the basics of hardware.

Would be more reliable if he actually played games instead of just running a benchmark suite.
What video was that? You mean 30% performance gain from a windows update?
How many different reviews are there for this kind if comparison. You can't look at 1 or 2 reviewer on YT and go ahead and spread that around like facts
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Because some of those RTX 50 series GPUs are handicapped by design plain and simple
What do you mean? Does Nvidia intentionally slow down their hardware?


Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
How many different reviews are there for this kind if comparison. You can't look at 1 or 2 reviewer on YT and go ahead and spread that around like facts
Again - what do you mean exactly?
Last edited by C1REX; 10 hours ago
Am I speaking Chinese here?
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Am I speaking Chinese here?
Your comments are not clear to me.
"Handicapped by design GPU" can mean many different things. Especially in the context of HW's video. Language is not a problem here.

I completely miss the meaning of the second comment and what you are referring to.
TechYESCity re-tested b/c of the HUB video, he saw significant performance improvement in Delta Force and Space Marine 2, but otherwise margin-of-error levels of improvement.
https://youtu.be/hf1q1nwoj8k?si=FCpPmFxUJ__G0DcP
Originally posted by C1REX:
Originally posted by Bad 💀 Motha:
Because some of those RTX 50 series GPUs are handicapped by design plain and simple
What do you mean? Does Nvidia intentionally slow down their hardware?
The 5050 is quite literally manufacturerd E-Waste (a better name would be 5010), the 5060 is garbage and is no significant upgrade from a 4060 and not even able to MFG properly, the 5060Ti being equally bad (especially if you get the 8GB version). No joke, the new MFG doesn't work properly if you don't have 12GB VRAM or more.

That is not even touching on the fact that Nvidia isn't even honest with the performance that you can expect from them. Which has been covered by multiple people online already.
Here is another benchmark comparing release (not review) and the newest drivers:

https://youtu.be/bzooe2F6NNg?si=Vfp_FKx4pJH63CrW

No difference in most games but there is some improvement in few of them.

YouTube is suggesting me dubbed videos from various countries with different conclusions but more people seem to not see much improvement with the newest drivers.
Originally posted by C1REX:
Originally posted by DefinitelyNotMonk:
He once thought an update got him 30% more performance, the guys a bit of a joke like most of tech tube once you know the basics of hardware.

Would be more reliable if he actually played games instead of just running a benchmark suite.
What video was that? You mean 30% performance gain from a windows update?

Yeah that sounds like the one, he admitted he was wrong a bit later, but common sense should of told him it was wrong before he published.
Originally posted by DefinitelyNotMonk:
Originally posted by C1REX:
What video was that? You mean 30% performance gain from a windows update?

Yeah that sounds like the one, he admitted he was wrong a bit later, but common sense should of told him it was wrong before he published.

If they apologised and explained the results then it’s fine. We all do mistakes like every human does. And of they own their mistakes then kudos for them.

https://youtu.be/rlfTHCzBnnQ?si=85ujXUSWzR_FAA4G

Few channels noticed performance gains but to a much smaller degree.
https://youtu.be/yDzVWqncMFA


But this case feels different for some reason.
They double down in a way and say they weren’t clear enough and people misunderstand them.
TechYEScity rightfully calls them out on Twitter.

https://x.com/hardwareunboxed/status/1942132593295810729?s=46&t=gqsuzoxytcBi1N2Do5LHQQ
That's not like the good old 22.7.1 scenario where they rewrote their OpenGL...

Calling it "FineWine" while there were problems in the first place doesn't mean it's fine.
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