well as I would prefer but sadly don't have self-sufficient means...

I need to buy items to live.. food, clothing etc...
I am pretty much doomed to pay whatever is asked.

I do tend to prefer local shops (buy basicly nothing online, and certainly nothing from those chinese shops) and try to use cash (even though that takes efford and costs more than paying with plastic).. as well as the fysical not selfcheckout..

so I try to nudge my expenses a little bit towards things I deem important.. like the preservation of local jobs.. even though it's a drop on the ocean.. buying 3 euro cables on alibaba is greedy and bad.. longterm for prosperty here.. better buy the 20 euro local ones..

likewise sure paying with plastic is free while taking out cash costs 80 cents per transaction..
(and more if you wish to depositit it) but it put the brake on the cashless society ideas some politicians talk about that I deem disastrous if they ever become a realitily..

and I buy organic food even if costing more (but if they charge 3 times more I say screw it)

I would like to buy more direct too but thats hard.. I mean it pisses me off that the farmer does get 0.5 cent for the bellpeper I pay 1.19 euro for...
and some stockholder of that supermarket pockets all that money...

I do not care a wareshouseemployee a trucker, and a supermarketemployee add cost to my bellpeper.. but that at best add anothger 1.5 cent... most the costs are just profit by those greedy aholes I like to give nothing....

similairy I download or piratesteam much music and movies.. those artists are already way way way to wealthy nobody should earn that much besites of a cd I buy only 6 cents go that artist anyway...most goes to taxes, and others I deem not deserving it mooching of their labour.
but when there are donation buttons and free downloads.. I tend to volentairely donate about 1 euro per song directly to the artist sometimes more... it depends if the artist already gets a moderate income or not... aka one they start to get enough donations already I see no need to tip them more..

basicly I am the person who would be perfectly content in a collective and would be putting in a reasonable amount of work and efford... likely 48 hours of work (my normal week + a bit extra for once it's for a collective I do a bit extra the time I now give away as volenteerwork aside my job...
and I would not take much more than I would now.. again a system of take what you think what you need I can be trusted with and tend often understemiates my need

for it always pisses me off greatly if people who are in fact way better of come "oh I deserve that charity.." than I look their finances and I am like what I am way worse off than you and i DONATE to this cause.. who are you to mooch of it?

I tend to have a high sence of "fairness" I don';t like to be ripped off but I also not like to have to compete....

Originally posted by Houseman:

So why do two people ever agree to make a transaction?

Because both people have to agree to give up something to gain something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biC-fHO40vc

so yeah it varies... in many cases it's just I get exploited on... I have fysical needs and am powerless to pay anyless..

I cannot move house.. theres a housing shortage and waiting list.. whatever my rent is raised I just have to bite it..

with insurances same thing....

I need food but not neccecairy THIS food I may buy more than the cheaspest that sustain me.. and price, how healthy it is.. how fair it is produced.. how sustainable it is produced..how much I like the taste of it.. whats my current mood.. all influence what I deem a fair price...

if I see a man with a stall selling eggs on the side on the road asking 5 euro for 10 I happely pay (but would get outraged if these are not the heirloom organic homegrown eggs I suspect such a stall to sell)
meanwhile in the supermarket.. I hate paying more than 2 euro for 10..

so I tend to have places (often where I presume artisianal, handmade) where I am willing to pay a much higher price... and where i feel scammed if the products are NOT upto spec

I mean I am a hobby beekeper I know the cost of making a jar of honey is higher than the 7.50 a jar I ask.. if I could ask more I would... but still no more than 10% higher than my actual costs...
but if I rise them to that people not buy them.. and I refuse to compromise in quality.. and well I thus already basicly pay for them to have thge best quality honey possible..
---but I expect that SAME dedication of everybody in every profession...

always keeping prices low.. small margins.. high quality.
so never faking.. never charging more than 110% of cost... while if you have staff always paying them the mayority of the profits...

profit maximalisation is a word I deeply hate....

so many factors here... but the mayor one is "dependence" (the one that feels bad
or "trust" the one that feels good.. until that trust is broken...

when you find that person you though was artisianal is in fact sjust bvuying 2 euro factory eggs and selling them 5 euro a box at the roadside...
well even while he never advertised his were organic.. he knew what he was doing and he is a jackass ahole...
even people saying "but he may need the money""
f that.. he cheats and is an aholei
he be better of just asking for a handout.. than this scam..

likewise every time I hear of the margins in stores (where I morally really never dare charge more than 10% over my cost for anything I do).. but also always demand 90% of any revenue I add to a compagny.. feels just wrong..

Originally posted by Houseman:

My buddy Rain says that people only make transactions out of greed, to exploit the other person, and that "fair trade" isn't really fair.

So why do two people ever agree to make a transaction?

because you need greed to have transaction, you need 2 people to want something

not working if one dude need nothing why the dude want transaction if he need nothing ?? if he has greed he want to trade something to get what he want

Because trade benefits both parties and creates higher utilty for both parties.

That negative spin above may be true at times.

However, anybody who has ever worked in sales for as much as 5 minutes knows that things really happen when people feel like they are getting something.

needs

I want cheesecake. But sometime I too lazy to make cheesecake. Find someone who can make cheesecake. I buy cheesecake from someone for 5 silver. Baker use money to cover for the cheesecake he made plus a bit extra so he can keep making cheesecake. Everyone is happy.

Originally posted by Xero_Daxter:

I want cheesecake. But sometime I too lazy to make cheesecake. Find someone who can make cheesecake. I buy cheesecake from someone for 5 silver. Baker use money to cover for the cheesecake he made plus a bit extra so he can keep making cheesecake. Everyone is happy.

"noooo, you're being exploited by the evil greedy cheescake man! The cheescake isn't really worth 5 silver, you're being explooooited!"

*red screaming wojack*