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Eresian 19 May, 2021 @ 3:44pm
Intersection Marking Tool and Node Controller
Can someone confirm for me that these mods don't work with the latest version of Redesigned? I was installing Transfer Broker and replaced Harmony 2.0.4.4 with Redesigned, and immediately everything broke and I got more error messages than I could sort through and understand. Since Harmony was updated more recently than Redesigned, it is correct for me to chalk this up to a version mismatch and wait for Redesigned to be updated?
Originally posted by Chaos:
Both of these mods should be working great with Harmony Redesigned, but they both have some bugs with simple workarounds:

See Intersection Marking Tool and Node Controller errors

I would appreciate some feedback if that solution helped you.
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Chaos 19 May, 2021 @ 4:03pm 
Both of these mods should be working great with Harmony Redesigned, but they both have some bugs with simple workarounds:

See Intersection Marking Tool and Node Controller errors

I would appreciate some feedback if that solution helped you.
YuLun 19 May, 2021 @ 4:05pm 
For me, both are safe to use so far, no error message at all

It can be issue of loading order, you need to make sure redesigned and some other framework (prefab hook, etc.) load earlier than mods based on them (IMT, TMPE, etc.)

You can have a look at my loading order (loading order is subscribing order) which may help you get rid of this ^^
Chaos 19 May, 2021 @ 4:08pm 
Originally posted by YuLun:
For me, both are safe to use so far, no error message at all

It can be issue of loading order, you need to make sure redesigned and some other framework (prefab hook, etc.) load earlier than mods based on them (IMT, TMPE, etc.)

You can have a look at my loading order (loading order is subscribing order) which may help you get rid of this ^^

I agree, tweaking the load older is all it takes. To do it, unsub the two mods, and re-subscribe them. This will make them load after Harmony Redesigned, since mods are loaded in the order they were subscribed.
Madisonian 22 May, 2021 @ 6:50am 
When using a local copy of your Harmony mod, will it always load before Workshop subscribed items, thus removing the need to worry about load order?
Chaos 22 May, 2021 @ 10:18am 
Originally posted by Ciar Aon:
When using a local copy of your Harmony mod, will it always load before Workshop subscribed items, thus removing the need to worry about load order?

Yes. It would then be loaded with the other local mods, in alphabetical order, and before any workshop mods.

However, worrying about load order is a one-time-thing. Once all the buggy mods are resubscribed after HR, there will be no more load order issues in the future.

Most mods that require Harmony and are correctly implemented do not have a load order problem, even though they load before Harmony. It's only a handful of mods that are incorrectly implemented. If run without any Harmony at all, these mods would crash instead of popping up the "Missing dependency, please install" prompt. This is because they don't check whether Harmony is installed, but assume it always is.

The short list of affected mods and feedback from their authors is at https://github.com/drok/Harmony-CitiesSkylines/issues/9#issuecomment-801507076
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