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SeriouS_Samurai 10 May, 2013 @ 6:12am
Main Menu and Lobby improvements [The complete list].
I have decided to gather all the suggestions I have for the main menu (including the lobby) and post them here. New players have no idea how to navigate the main menu, but even if you have played the game more than 4000 hours and you know how to properly navigate the main menu it's still confusing and could be improved a lot.

1. The first suggestion is that singleplayer, seen in this screenshot:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=133352980
should be moved to the submenu of campaign mode, seen in this screenshot:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=133352959

, because singleplayer is campaign mode. You could also delete the singleplayer picture of Ellis if it isn't used anywhere else.

2. Delete "Play with friends" from every game mode's submenu and make the "Friends playing" in the bottom left corner always visible and always clickable (even if 0 friends are online).

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144275507

3. When clicking "Friends playing" in the bottom left corner it shows all your friends that are currently playing L4D2. At the top it says "All joinable games found", however in this screenshot:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144275553
you can clearly see that it says "Not in Joinable Game" next to the player's name. Just delete the text "All Joinable games found", and simply keep the text "Select an active game to begin playing with a friend".

4. Delete "Quick match" from all co-op modes' submenu (Campaign, Realism, Survival and Mutations) but keep "Quick match" for multiplayer modes ( Versus, Versus Realism, Scavenge). Because quick match doesn't like custom maps, quick match would rather send you to an empty lobby even if there are custom games in progress, and it only takes 2 seconds longer to click "Play Online" and choose a random map from the list.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=132847969

5. Delete "Not installed add-on", "Installed add-on" and "Official" filters in "Play online" for all game modes because those 3 filters are unnecessary.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144275459

6. When clicking "Play Online" in a game mode's submenu this appears:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144275349

and then when you click "More search options" this submenu appears:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144275393
this whole submenu should not exist, you should move "Create a game lobby" to the page where "More search options" is and delete "More search options".

7. In the main menu if you click Addons and then exit addons the game will freeze for a couple of seconds.

8. Please force game instructor to be always on and remove it from the multiplayer options so people can't turn it off.

In some maps it's important to have game instructor on. It would be great if all the "obvious" instructions were deleted, for instance "Don't shoot your teammates" tip.

9. Move "Gore" setting from multiplayer options to Video options, because the "gore" setting is a video setting. You should also delete the "Advanced settings" tab in video options (everything should appear in the video options without having to click the "Advanced settings" tab).

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144287642

10. Move "Blog post" in the main menu to the submenu of "Extras".

11. Please do not let filter settings automatically save when you exit the game, as seen in this screenshot:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144301853

Make it so the filter settings reset to default (To show all games and lobbies, all addons and official maps) when you exit the game.
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:50am
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Rectus 10 May, 2013 @ 1:16pm 
One more menu related issue; it's still not possible to select custom maps from the "Change Chapter" dialog in survival.

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144336617
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SeriouS_Samurai 11 May, 2013 @ 6:11am 
12. In the main menu if you click addons and then click workshop tags, there's an unnecessary tag called "skins".

13. Would be better with numbers instead of bars (or a combination of a number being displayed and bar) in options for mouse setting, film grain amount, game volume/voice chat volume etc. so it becomes easier to change those settings. I would also completely delete film grain amount, it only makes it harder to see and causes more lag.

14. If you use the code "name [ / url]" in your item's description in the L4D2 Steam Workshop the code becomes hidden and only the "name" you choose becomes visible. However if you subscribe to the item and then start L4D2 and then click "Addons" in the main menu the whole code will be shown in the item's description instead of just showing the "name".[http//%3Dlink]
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:17am
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SeriouS_Samurai 2 Jun, 2013 @ 4:31am 
15. The default server list doesn't find many games in progress, compared to if you use the console command "openserverbrowser".

16. If you have an underscore ( _ ) in your name (author name) for a map/campaign the underscore becomes invisible when clicking "Play online" in a game modes submenu and selecting the custom map/campaign in the default server list like this:

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=149750670
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:17am
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SeriouS_Samurai 24 Jul, 2013 @ 10:08am 
17. In multiplayer options it would be great if there was an option to enable/disable sprays, and maybe people want to have sprays enabled but they want the files in materials/temp folder to automatically delete when you exit the game because some sprays are very inappropriate. I had over 500 vtf files in materials/temp folder which I had to manually delete.

Multiplayer options: Sprays: Enable and save / Enable and delete when exit / Disable
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SeriouS_Samurai 18 Sep, 2013 @ 10:43am 
18. Number 18 has been fixed!
A friend contacted me about a message box causing his main menu to completely freeze, only way to exit the game was to do "ctrl + alt + del".
I told him to take a screenshot, you can view it here:
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=179359008
The message box appeared behind the main menu and said: "Left 4 Dead 2 would like to associate with files using the .vpk extension" and then you get a "Yes" or "No" option. He couldn't click anything at all, the message box just froze the entire main menu.
He only had Helm's Deep Reborn installed so I was worried that my vpk was causing the problem. I told him to reinstall Steam and L4D2 which he did, but after that the message still appeared however after reinstalling everything he was finally able to click "Yes" and the main menu worked after that. Any clue what was causing this, or could you please make so it automatically selects "Yes" so people don't have to manually click.

19. I noticed some old information regarding the main menu in the readme.txt file located in the left4dead2/addons folder:
In the readme.txt it says: "View and manage add-ons from the main menu: Extras->Add-ons."
This is old information because when you click "Extras" in the main menu only "Developer commentary" and "Credits" appears. "Addons" was moved out from the submenu of "Extras".

20. Could you please add an option in Multiplayer options to enable/disable the intro videos? (The videos which play before the main menu appears everytime you start the game). All that time needed for the videos to play could have been used to load addons/vpks from the Steam Workshop instead :)
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:47am
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Rectus 18 Sep, 2013 @ 11:27am 
Number 18 seems to break when you launch the game with options to open the console, or maybe showing the -insecure message.

Speaking of the -insecure message, it disables all other UI elemens until closed, which is very annoying when trying to use the console or tools mode. It feels verys superfluous for dev mode.
Last edited by Rectus; 18 Sep, 2013 @ 11:28am
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SeriouS_Samurai 10 Aug, 2014 @ 9:38am 
21. Spectating free look should be enabled by default and then removed from multiplayer options so people can't disable it.

22. When you join a Steam group which has L4D2 servers those servers appear in a list in the main menu. The problem is that other servers appear in that list even though you have not joined those other Steam groups.
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:20am
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SeriouS_Samurai 17 Aug, 2014 @ 10:26am 
Adding lobby improvements as well here we go:

23. Voice chat in lobby is broken (and has been for quite some time). The voice chat icon does appear when someone uses their microphone however you can't hear anything. Either fix it or delete voice chat in lobby because some people seem to be talking to themselves (without knowing that no one else can hear them). If it was deleted the "Mute" option when you click someone's name in a lobby would also have to be deleted.

24. HD Portraits should be part of an official update and not be in a separate item in the L4D2 Steam Workshop because it's an awesome improvement: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=285662486

25. If you are the lobby leader: You should be able to click another person's name in the lobby and then promote him/her to become the new lobby leader (so the new lobby leader becomes the host of the server when selecting local server etc.).
Right now if you don't want to be the lobby leader (host) you need to leave the lobby.
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:21am
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SeriouS_Samurai 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:28am 
26. Delete "Play on Steam Group Server" from all co-op modes' submenu (Campaign, Survival, Realism and Mutations) but keep it for Multiplayer modes (Versus, Scavenge, Versus Realism).

27. When you create a lobby and you choose a Custom campaign/map it should automatically change server setting to "Local server" in the lobby. When you choose an Official campaign in the lobby it should automatically change server setting to "Official Dedicated" in the lobby.
Last edited by SeriouS_Samurai; 6 Sep, 2016 @ 4:48am
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