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Getty 8 Dec, 2018 @ 4:54am
Trasure Hunter review manipulation?
Does this classifies for review manipulation?
https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/app/748300/discussions/0/1745605598712021409/

announcement screenshot https://imgur.com/Y4p11Ak
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Originally posted by Michel Baie:
They're not offering anything for good reviews.
They're not menacing against the bad ones either (I checked some of those who were answered by the devs.)
It doesn't look like they bought reviews.

I don't think this post qualify as review manipulation... They're begging a bit, true, but they're asking for positive reviews "if you enjoyed the game".

So, uh, I'd say you went a little too far here.
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Getty 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:26am 
The community manager contacted me and they don't see it as a manipulation. What do you guys think? Were there any games banned because of this?
I will point him to this forum if necessary.
I'm just poiting things out, I don't want them to get banned.
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Michel Baie 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:32am 
They're not offering anything for good reviews.
They're not menacing against the bad ones either (I checked some of those who were answered by the devs.)
It doesn't look like they bought reviews.

I don't think this post qualify as review manipulation... They're begging a bit, true, but they're asking for positive reviews "if you enjoyed the game".

So, uh, I'd say you went a little too far here.
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Getty 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:40am 
The tos says not to artificially manipulate the review system. To me asking people to review your game is manipulating and I don't see it that different than "asking customers to review your product from within your application".

I remember that game that got banned for having notifications in-game where they were asking for reviews which is why i brought this up.
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Michel Baie 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:42am 
It's not from within the game, it's the store page.
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Getty 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:45am 
Ok so asking people to review your game is fine? Why are not more devs doing it since it can help a lot? I've always had the impression you're not allowed to when coming to steam reviews.
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Michel Baie 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:46am 
Actually a lot of indie devs are doing it.
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Getty 8 Dec, 2018 @ 5:49am 
I've only seen them asking for reviews in press emails, first time seeing on steam discussions/announcements. Thanks for explaining it.
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Michel Baie 8 Dec, 2018 @ 6:17am 
Usually the devs aren't asking for reviews that bluntly : it's generally just a few lines at the bottom of an update post.
Like in those :

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/games/573410/announcements/detail/1705068764277340834

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/games/883070/announcements/detail/1708446464018059401

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/games/468670/announcements/detail/1689303628528516780

That's probably why you didn't noticed that behaviour so far.
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talgaby 11 Dec, 2018 @ 12:03am 
Asking to leave feedback in some form is a normal for any content creator on any platform. Begging for reviews is okay, even begging for positive reviews. Offering something in exchange would be manipulation. But simple positive review begging is rather normal, for a time Artifex Mundi puts these in their Steam edition of the games as well (and begging screens for reviews have been common in casual games since around 2003-ish).

I also think you are jumping the gun here a bit. Steam games rely on user scores, so a little desperation is okay from a dev, as long as it is in the begging territory. Emotional manipulation may be considered manipulation, but considering how most Steam users are jaded bastards or ridiculously naive kids, I do not really think it is a particularly despicable practise, just desperate.
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