Originally posted by Benoist3012:

Oh great, I have a question on this:

Originally posted by Banshee:

• The Tanks will be destructable, and will no longer be slowed by damage.

How will you manage the healthbar?

It will display the moving tank's health right? Maybe to not confuse players, use the green skin for one team? (yeah I'm not even sure of what I said because, green is for regen so :\)
Or display red's tank, blu's tank text in the healthbar?

The health bar will display the health of the Tank that's currently moving. I don't think players will be confused once they realize what the health bar is there for, but if it becomes a problem, we'll see what we can do about it.

Originally posted by CaioXG002:

Ooh, that's cool. If I may ask, banshee, how will sloped ground affect the Tanks now that they have a fixed speed? I personally though of many things:
-They roll upwards at a slower speed. Seems the most obvious one.
-They take additional damage from all sources while at a slope. No speed loss.
-If a Tank is destroyed while at a slope, it will spawn at the beginning of the slope, thus being the only way to lose progress. No speed loss nor resistance debuff.
-There's also the obvious "Tanks aren't affected by sloped ground".

I'm pretty sure whether it goes slower up ramps or not is dependant on the map, which we aren't going to change. We also don't plan on having the Tanks roll back on slopes if they're destroyed on one, mainly to prevent stalemate situations, causing rounds to drag out too long.

Comebacks will always be possible in this new design, making the rollback slopes likely unnecessary. Even if a team's Tank gets destroyed when it's 99% of the way through the track, the opposing team could still win if they're able to defend their Tank until the end.

Within the next month or so, we'll be completely changing how Tank Race (PLR) works. Not to worry, we'll be keeping the giant fights.

Here's how we intend for it to work:

• The Tanks will be destructable, and will no longer be slowed by damage.
  
• Only one team's Tank will move at a time.
  
  
• The round begins with a Giant fight.
  
• The team that loses the fight will get the first Tank turn.
  
• As a reward for the winner, the first Tank will spawn with a bit less health and the surviving Giant will be healed.
  
  
• Upon Tank destruction, it will go into "ghost mode" where it was destroyed.
  
• It will then be the opposing team's turn for their Tank to move.
  
• Tanks will be spawned wherever they were destroyed when it's their turn to move.
  
• The amount of health a Tank will spawn with is dependant on how far along the track it is.
  
• The farther along a Tank is, the less health it will spawn with.
  
• Teams will trade Tank turns until one of the Tanks reaches the end and wins the round.
  
  
• A Giant will be given to a team when their first Tank turn ends.
  
• A team will get a maximum of two Giants per round, including the initial ones.
  
• Giants and Sentry Busters will do reduced damage to enemy Tanks.

The reason we're doing this is quite simple, it wasn't really fun to babysit invincible Tanks, and the current design gives players way too many things to focus on at once.

Got any comments/suggestions/feedback? Post 'em below!

Updated:

• Giant Shotgun Heavy changes:
  
  
  • Reduced crit boost duration on melee kill to the default 5s (from 6s).

Updated:

• Major League Scout changes:
  
  
  • Increased Flying Guillotine damage by +20%.
    
  • Removed the +90% Flying Guillotine recharge rate bonus.
    
  • Replaced the Sandman with the Holy Mackerel.
    
  • Replaced the Force-A-Nature with the Soda Popper.
    
  • Soda Popper doesn't build Hype, nor does it have a reload speed bonus.
    
  • Increased pellets per shot bonus to 22 (from 20).
    
  • Removed the clip size bonus.
  
  
• Giant Mega Bison Soldier changes:
  
  
  • Can no longer spawn in PLR. May be re-added again later with tweaks.
  
  
• Giant Demoknight changes:
  
  
  • Removed the +20% faster melee attack speed bonus.
    
  • Removed the 3s of crit boost on melee kill.
    
  • Removed the 200 health restored on melee kill.
    
  • Increased melee damage bonus to +200% (from +140%).
    
  • Critical hits now knock back enemy players.
    
  • Melee hits will now restore 15% of the charge meter.
  
  
• Giant Sticky Demoman changes:
  
  
  • Reduced move speed to 146 HU/s (from 176 HU/s).
    
  • Replaced Scottish Resistance with the Quickiebomb Launcher.
    
  • Clip size is 7.
    
  • Reduced firing speed bonus to +40% (from +60%).
    
  • Reduced reload speed bonus to +20% (from +25%).
    
  • Stickybombs fizzle 4 seconds after landing.
  
  
• Sir Nukesalot changes:
  
  
  • Bottle now deploys 30% slower.
  
  
• Giant Heavy changes:
  
  
  • Reduced Gloves of Running Urgently speed bonus to +60% (from +69%).
    
  • Replaced the Minigun with the Tomislav.
    
  • Reduced damage bonus to +40% (from +60%).
  
  
• Giant Shotgun Heavy changes:
  
  
  • Reduced crit boost time on melee kill to 5s (from 6s).
  
  
• Giant Engineer changes:
  
  
  • Increased Widowmaker firing speed bonus to +40% (from +30%).
    
  • Reduced Sentry Gun damage bonus to +150% (from +250%).
    
  • Reduced building health bonus to +650% (from +660%).
    
  • Reduced metal regen to 60 every 5s (from 75).

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• Giant Heavy changes:
  
  
  • Increased damage penalty vs buildings to -22% (from -15%).

Updated:

• Giant Detonator Pyro changes:
  
  
  • Removed the +65% faster weapon switch speed bonus.
    
  • Increased Detonator damage bonus to +187% (from +150%).

Updated:

• Giant Flare Pyro has been replaced by Giant Detonator Pyro for now.
  
  
• Giant Kritzkrieg Medic changes:
  
  
  • Reduced move speed to 160 HU/s (from 176 HU/s).

Updated:

• Giant Heavy changes:
  
  
  • Reduced damage penalty vs buildings to -15% (from -25%).

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