Originally posted by Rustimus:

I'd like to pipe up here. I just want to say that myself and Fishy left the server recently and it was in no way related to the reasons Spanj and Static left. It was a decision we came to on our own without their influence and it was based on the gameplay mechanic you have designed that we decided really isn't for us.

We aren't fans of "the long game" where you chip away at a base over several weeks. We prefer fast & fun PvP action and were really put off by an HV with 108 turrets spawned by the server owners that hit us with a frame rate of 3fps. I know you said you'd address it, but nothing happened that weekend, no posts went up and we felt it needed immediate attention.

In addition, we did attempt to take on your base in HVs to see what damage we could do. The sheer number of towers caused the game to lag and I started getting "Internal Errors" and eventually got booted from the game.

If warfare needed to be larger in order to beat these defences then it would only have got worse. We decided that the reality of Empyrion PvP is that it can only really be achieved on a small scale, and for that reason we don't see any point in investing large amounts of time in a final battle that is likely to be a crashing lag-fest.

Best of luck though guys. Just wanted to ensure there was no implied or suspected influence on our decision.

Comepletely agree

I would like to say that I don't agree that it was an exploit, that is a mechanic that has been in the game from day one and has been used many times for many attacks, and the only reason that spanj was able to take down the oden using it was - frankly - that there was poor design otherwise someone on foot could never have taken down a tank as large and heavily armed as the oden. And secondly that the tank was not moved which is something that wolf absolutely should have done.
Secondly it is completely unnacceptable that someone declairs it cheating when the the game allows it and there is no rule whatsoever banning it just because they because of it. If you want to make it a rule later down the line then that is your business and is fair enough but do not accuse people of cheating just because you loose because of something.
Thirdly the border between what is considered an exploit and what isn't is blurred and confused,e.g. I thought spanj's base attack CV was an exploit until I realised that it is the only practical way to defete a base - PS bases are super OP at the moment IMO - so the only real way to tell what is legal and what is not is the rules and the rules clearly did not forbid this.

Also if you are classifying anything which gives someone an unfiar advangtage an exploit then the oden must itself be considered an exploit as it creates so much lag that it makes it extremely difficult to effectively use SV's against it which I cannot believe was not motivated by the fact that the alpha's use farm more SV's than the omega's

I am also sad to announce that I will be leaving the server, whilst the hostility after this battle did sour my opinion, The main things which preempted this were the loss of spanj, fishy, luscifer, static and rustimus who are the main reasons that I had enjoyed the server and my disapointment at the combat as both the base attack and the existance of the oden have showed me that all combat happens at ridiculously low fps and is completely unbalenced which I just do not enjoy. Also I have found that there are too many and too frequent of these types of argument

Best of luck to all and hope you continue to enjoy the server

I would like to reiterate what static said about you not being any part of the issue you are describing. Also I have massively enjoyed playing with u.
PS
If the complaints I made about the anvil played any part in this decision played any part in this I sincerely appologies and would like to reiterate that at the time of making those complaints I did not realise the near impossibility of attacking a base without something like that.

Wolfy Mac Wolf face

Ok fair enought

Hi all I just wanted to say that I think that we should bring back the rule that ALL thrusters need to be exposed on CV's for alpha 8 - mabey not on SV's and HV's as that just makes design vastly more difficult and their armour is nowhere near as heavy anyway.
I think this would be better as it would give SV's a better chance against CV's as well as encouraging smart design rather than merely hiding a tonne of thrusters behind layers of Combat steel

Originally posted by devildog:

yes and bombs drops for sv

YES PLEASE !!!! however they should also be super slow and/or have a low range so they are not OP

Originally posted by earphones:

and nukes for CV's....

I'm not neccessaraly saying Nukes but I think that there should be some high power weapon in the game mabey with a very long cooldown or something to make it balanced to allow people a chance to punch through heavy armour.

Definitely Spanj

Originally posted by Lord Jerikho:

just give me a gun and tell me who to kill

lol