Originally posted by Chrysalis the Black Mage:

The Infection needs to be removed entirely.

I can't tell if it's still here because it's a joke weapon or because we just like to screw over everyone on a server (Medic, particularly.)

Honestly its main problem is that it's just hard to notice when you get stabbed. Fix that and it's not bad. Also I hate that it's useless playing defense on payload.

Originally posted by Jregory Krisk:

Originally posted by Thrynity:

You know what the fat scout is ?
only shotgun

Reduce the damage penalty to 35% and reduce the speed boost to 60%(around the same speed as powerjack pyro), but you still cant use your minigun. How about that?

The entire point of the fat scout is that you're an obese guy running at break neck speeds acting like an actual scout. It's a joke weapon like the mittens of laughter.

Hey, was the cloak extending knife removed? I can't find it and I don't get why it would be.

Originally posted by Mason.S:

Originally posted by Isaac:

...and we all know how many heavies actually like their shot guns.

I-I do..?
...a lot..? :c

Lets be honest though, the sandvich is far more popular that any of heavy's shot guns. I mean he already has a minigun, most people would rather use that and a sandvich than it and a shotgun.

Originally posted by Theray070696:

Originally posted by Isaac:

I just hope that bleed doesn't break the weapon. After all the idea is that you can keep your disguise with it but can still disguise on will, unlike the yer or regular knife, at the cost of an instant death.Bleed however could possibly make your disguise useless since people will likely notice when your victim bleeds. Maybe give the bleed JUST a half second or second activation lag after the stab so that you at least have a chance to get away. After all, if you stab and the enemy instantly starts bleeding they'll probably look behind themself as soon as possible to check for spies using the infection.

This is a good idea, I'll look into making it an option. It will be optional though, so crafting can decide whether or not to use this, or use a hud display, or both. We'll see.

Thanks. Glad that I could be of help.

Originally posted by (◕ᴥ◕し):

Originally posted by Isaac:

Yeah, they should change the model. it's not cool enough to be a fat scout gun honestly. heavy deserves a better fat scout fun.

Lets give heavy a scattergun

I say he should have the twin force a nature.

Originally posted by Giveaway412:

Originally posted by Isaac:

The entire point of the fat scout is that it's a sorta joke weapon. Changing the stats the drastically would ruin it. It wouldn't be fun at all to use since it would just be another shotgun, and we all know how many heavies actually like their shot guns.

If it's a joke weapon, at least change the model. The current one is too cool to be used on the Fat Scout.

Yeah, they should change the model. it's not cool enough to be a fat scout gun honestly. heavy deserves a better fat scout fun.

Originally posted by Mason.S:

Hey! So, honestly, the Fat Scout kinda feels...wrong. Like, playing as Heavy going that fast? Eugh...so, I think it needs a reworking. Like, something simple but useful. Something like:

On Kill: 3 Second Speed Boost
-40% Damage
-15% Switch-To-Weapon Speed

That way you can still play as a Fat Scout, but you don't have your main weapon taken away, you can be something worthwhile to your team, AND it'll actually be useful. For now it's just a goofing-around weapon.

The entire point of the fat scout is that it's a sorta joke weapon. Changing the stats the drastically would ruin it. It wouldn't be fun at all to use since it would just be another shotgun, and we all know how many heavies actually like their shot guns.

Originally posted by Big Boss:

No Huo Long Heater or Brass Beast heavies? Count me in. (does use brass beast outside of custom weapons)

What's wrong with those?

Originally posted by Sebs:

Originally posted by Isaac:

I don't think it's bad on its own so to say. It's sorta like a tweaked YER in a way. I think the problem is that the fact that it doesn't make it obvious when a backstab happens. Actually, why not make it not do damage on backstab, but 5 or six seconds of bleed instead? That way the player will notice the backstab easier and in a way that also makes it so there's almost no way self healing medics can't pick up health packs after regening to full health.

Infection is cool, but it should do bleeding just to take health from the medic so you won't need to fix the Medic dying from that, and there would be no need to add a specialized hitshound nor stuff, the bleeding will be enough signal...or just for fanciness add a little green skull (like marked for death, but now you are really going to die cx)

I just hope that bleed doesn't break the weapon. After all the idea is that you can keep your disguise with it but can still disguise on will, unlike the yer or regular knife, at the cost of an instant death.Bleed however could possibly make your disguise useless since people will likely notice when your victim bleeds. Maybe give the bleed JUST a half second or second activation lag after the stab so that you at least have a chance to get away. After all, if you stab and the enemy instantly starts bleeding they'll probably look behind themself as soon as possible to check for spies using the infection.