Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

I think the best way to balance it. Is to keep the current one (maybe) and add "crit vulnerability" which makes it so thats any random crit headshot and/or backstab would do more dmg.

To be honest, that would be one of the better rebalances for the weapon, making it more defensive against everything except Kritzkreig, Snipers and Spies. Which are all currently the best to deal with the current version, but just makes it more even for the person going against the Heavy.

yeah i like that idea because it means that it wont counter his counters.
Chdata has a primary called the "big guy" that gives him 300 extra hp but no minigun or somethin like that, but you have crit vulnerability so you still die to snipers.

Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

the stat says every time you take dmg it increases, but the longer your revved you gain vulnerability?

Just read the stats again, now it makes even more sence. Now it makes you more vulnerable when not taking damage, more resistant when taking damage like the Medic's Tank.

I don't know how the damage scales or if the resist deminishes naturally, but it basically means that more damage you take, the more damage you resist, effectively canceling out most damage and extending the Heavy's HP. Revving for too long will nullify the boosts, but just dereving would allow the deminish to go away and resist to spike back up. It still is a poor downside, as it can be countered as long revs don't occur naturally and can still grant a lot of eHP gained like the Tank, which would evaporate with crits and such.

I think the best way to balance it. Is to keep the current one (maybe) and add "crit vulnerability" which makes it so thats any random crit headshot and/or backstab would do more dmg.

Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

wait, so you gain resistance, but also take more dmg?
wut?

Your resistance shoots up to 50% when you rev up every single time, then it scales back down to 0%. Basically the inverse of the current system, which yes, sounds just as brokenly powerful as you can imagine.

the stat says every time you take dmg it increases, but the longer your revved you gain vulnerability?

Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

Originally posted by Crafting | cTF2w:

This is the possible rework for the "immobile sentry"...

(+) Immunity from all debuffs while spun up
(+) While spun up: Damage resistance increases whenever the user takes each type of damage, up to +50%
(-) Damage resistance is reset upon undeploying
(-) While spun up: Damage vulnerability is increased every second, up to 50% in 30 seconds
(-) While spun up: -75% health from packs and healers

So every 30 seconds the Heavy would have to undeploy to reset the Damage resistance and Damage vulnerability back to 0. Also, we will be removing the knockback resistance due to certain weapons bypassing the resistance.

That's a very poor balancing, arguably even more broken than the current one.

The main issue with the Immobile Sentry is that it provides the heavy with double the equivalent HP (eHP) at the cost of no mobility and a rev up time, which all can be negated with a proper choke point cover, a Medic or a cart to eliminate the problem of no movement and basically double the eHP healed. No overheal is a non-downside, you gain more eHP than max overheal, and can still be healed back up with no penalty, basically making medigun twice as effective within your HP pool.

Assuming that rework is only detailing the stats changed rather than all the stats, it would become far too powerful, making the Heavy 600eHP at a time to mow down any class and continue on his way, effectively negating debuffs and general damage at a whim while still being a valid damage source AND have less punishment for moving up repeatedly.

Plus the healing downside is at worst a neutral stat, as it only provides 50% eHP healing that can help uber, and still be resolved by unreving for healing, reving back up for combat. And what Heavy would stay revved for 30 seconds straight!?

wait, so you gain resistance, but also take more dmg?
wut?

Originally posted by MEDIC!:

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

I think the resistance on the immobile sentry might be too much, i did a total of 1000+ dmg (dmg patching numbers) to him and we was still alive while riding the cart. he was also being pocketed.
Also, give it a penalty meaning you cant be healed or given ammo by dispensers while revved.

Also, fully charged headshot only does 169 against them.
Balanced.

Does their damage resistance ramp up or something? Just the other day I Machina headshot a sentry heavy and it did somewhere around 419 damage.

it ramps up over time to 50 FUCKING PERCENT RESISTANCE.

I think the resistance on the immobile sentry might be too much, i did a total of 1000+ dmg (dmg patching numbers) to him and we was still alive while riding the cart. he was also being pocketed.
Also, give it a penalty meaning you cant be healed or given ammo by dispensers while revved.

Also, fully charged headshot only does 169 against them.
Balanced.

Originally posted by Umbreon:

I JUST ENCOUNTERED A REALLY BAD BUG THAT COULD RESULT IN PEOPLE GETTING BANNED IF IT FALLS INTO THE WRONG HANDS!!!
(I EQUIPPED THE BAN HAMMER SOMEHOW)

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=866423832

does it even ban? i thought it was a joke

Originally posted by DannyPlaysSomeGames | trade.tf:

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

IDEA: The servers suck with no players. So i think you should do the steam events more often.
Im not sure why you dont do them more often. So it would be nice to know.

Either that or bots.

Then again, that's boring, so..........................

no, dont do bots.

IDEA: The servers suck with no players. So i think you should do the steam events more often.
Im not sure why you dont do them more often. So it would be nice to know.

Originally posted by DannyPlaysSomeGames | trade.tf:

Remember the flare jumper?

Let's bring that back, but without the mobility of a rocket jump, which was the main problem.

or bring it back and remove the bullshit flamethrower of a air balloon.