Originally posted by Crafting | cTF2w:

Originally posted by PureSalt DannyPlaysSomeGames:

Damn, Crafting, you really need to rework/remove/overhaul the Infection.

I have known that there has been problems with the Infection. But it would sometimes not work correctly if the Spy would backstab a target with the custom weapon that reduces backstab damage (as in, the Ol' Shelly) and would just do the default backstab.

One of the main problem is the the code of the custom attribute of the Infection (Theray) doesn't really code anymore, or tells me he will get back to TF2 but in-general doesn't. We plan do a rework of it anyway with a different coder working on it and it somewhat done, but the code is in-complete.

Trust me, it's not like I don't want to fix the problems... I sometimes can't and have to wait for the coder of that custom attribute to fix it (or I would just have to remove the weapon until it's fixed).

I understand.

Although you could do a Street Fighter 2 and turn the bug into an actual mechanic. But hey, if you can fix it, you can fix it.

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Originally posted by Agent Silver:

Changes to weapons to make them less gimicky? By the looks of it, all of these weapons seem to promote very specific playstyles, versus the weapons already in the game which are diverse enough to promote plenty of playstyles in specific ways depending on how you use them (minus probably half of the Scout's arsenal).
That might offer the server's players more will to stay and keep playing, as it'll probably unlock many more ways to mix up their game and try some things, in addition to making certain weapon combinations more compatible with each other.
I'm just spit balling out of bordom here, so this may or may not be a terrible idea.

gimmicky, under powered slightly overpowered, i really dont fucking care.
As long as its fun to fight AND use.

That is why everyone hates me; I keep going combo scout (Force-A-Nature + Mad Milk + Fan O' War)

Originally posted by Agent Silver:

Changes to weapons to make them less gimicky? By the looks of it, all of these weapons seem to promote very specific playstyles, versus the weapons already in the game which are diverse enough to promote plenty of playstyles in specific ways depending on how you use them (minus probably half of the Scout's arsenal).
That might offer the server's players more will to stay and keep playing, as it'll probably unlock many more ways to mix up their game and try some things, in addition to making certain weapon combinations more compatible with each other.
I'm just spit balling out of bordom here, so this may or may not be a terrible idea.

Well, gimmick weapons CAN be done right. I mean, Pyro Sharking (Neon Annihilator) is fun, and Battle Engi (Gunslinger + Widowmaker) is definitely a blast. But, it can fail as well, like the Sneaky Scout (Back Scatter) and the No-Scope Sniper (Classic). Gimmick Weapons can work, they just need to work right.

Originally posted by PureSalt DannyPlaysSomeGames:

Infection's glitched out, I keep getting regular crit backstabs

Originally posted by Ninjabiff:

The infection knife for the spy sometimes(not always) does no damage so you are stuck in stunned walk until health pack is picked up when damage has been done to you.

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Infection no work with deadringer.

Damn, Crafting, you really need to rework/remove/overhaul the Infection.

Rebalancing suggestion for High Noon:

High Noon
(+) While scoped in: slowly fade to be 75% transparent
(+) Silent killer: No death noise from kills
(+) On headshot: Your next shot will charge 50% faster
(+/-) On bodyshot: Your next shot will charge at default speed
(-) On miss: Your next shot will charge 25% slower
(-) 20% damage penalty

Invisibility can be very, very, powerful. It doesn't seem fair for Sniper to be completely
invisible without any major penalty other than slow charge (which is unnessecary sometimes, since Sniper can still 2-shot a heavy without any charge). Also, there is no way a sniper should get away with headshotting 20 classes without getting noticed in 1 life. So, I made the transparency similair to the pre-uber Chameleon, and gave it a bit of a damage penalty to be more tolerable.

The Power of Love:
Class: Demo
Slot: Melee
(+) You fire a long beam that hits enemies
(+) On kill: you get a girlfriend
(+) On 3rd kill if you read the comics: get an extra life
(+) On 5th/6th kill if you saw the movie: get an extra life
(-)That girlfriend has 7 evil exes in which you need to kill
(-)Soldier is now your gay roommate
(-)You always die to the last evil ex

Weapon ideas I thought of:
-Mister Transparent:
Class: Spy
Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=142150830&searchtext=
Slot: Revolver
(+)Can be fired when invisible
(+)50% faster disguise speed
(+)No smoke emmited when disguising
(-)50% damage penalty
(-)15% faster cloak drain
(-)Cannot pick up ammo boxes while invisible
(-)While invisible: if you fire this gun, you are seen for a brief second and you lose a quarter of your cloak

-Magnetic Malfunctioneer:
Class: Scout, Engi
Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1267&searchtext=
Slot: Secondary
(+)On use while aiming at enemy building: enemy building is disabled for 3 seconds
(+)This weapon deploys and holsters 20% faster
(-)10 second cooldown
(-)While building is disabled: shield emmits around building

-Fallout-Inna-Can
Class: Scout, Sniper
Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=313594395&searchtext=
Slot: Secondary
(+)On throw: enemy is given plague power up from Mannpower
(+)Extinguishing teammates restores cooldown by 33%
(+)20% larger radius
(-)36-second recharge rate

These weapons might be utter garbage. Consider suggesting a change.

Inspired by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5BcDFlRBbc

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Minecraft:
Class: Fun Game
Slot: Better than TF2
(+)Better than TF2
(+)Better than TF3
(+)Still better than TF2
(+)TF2 is a fun game
(+)I will never uninstall TF2
(+)TF2 is like MW3
(-)TF2 is crap
(-)TF2 is too childish
(-)There's a cupcake
(-)That guy shoot rainbows

Golden Eyelander:
Class: Demoman
Slot: Melee
(+)Swords are better
(+)My dad works for Michael Puff Microsoft
(+)My dad is Gabe Newell which means you're getting kicked and all your accounts are being deleted
(+)My dad owns Notch
(+)I've played TF2 before
(-)You just sit there with that stupid party hat
(-)Grenades don't work
(-)USE THE SWORD! USE THE SWORD!

Tab Button:
Class: COD player
Slot: Any
(+)I am on the top scoreboard
(-)I am on the top scoreboard because I am a hacker, obviously
(-)I don't know where the scoreboard is

Hacker:
Class: Spy
Slot: Cloak
(+)Anyone who's not me is a hacker 'cuz I'm the only one that's good
(-)You can't disguise with the eternal reward
(-)HOW DO YOU SEE ME I'M INVISIBLE
(-)YOU ARE A HACKER
(-)THE SENTRY IS A HACKER
(-)IT'S TIME TO STOP

Speed:
Class: Scout
Slot: Melee
(+)I'm so running fast cuz I'm so much better than you all
(+)I lift 500 pounds
(-)You weigh 500 pounds
(-)HOW ARE YOU GETTING SPEED BUFFS YOU HACKER

Amazing Weapon:
Class: Sniper
Slot: Primary
(+)I can wreck everyone with it
(+)I can quickscope all of you
(-)It's a Classic so it sucks.
(-)If you send this to SIN/NILST I will sue you!

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Originally posted by PureSalt DannyPlaysSomeGames:

how do you do It?

when you try and upgrade it just brings up the normal screen instead of the menu. Proceed as normal mvm upgrades.

Oh ok. Well, that only happened to me once, and I don't know if the servers updated recently, so...

Originally posted by AwesomeGuyDj:

Originally posted by PureSalt DannyPlaysSomeGames:

How much time untill canteens are available? Any progress on that?

technically with the normal upgrade "glitch" (may be intentional) you can canteens, for now.

how do you do It?