Originally posted by Agent Silver:

Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

The Bulletproof Battery change has done nothing for balance for the weapon. Arguably, it BUFFED the damn thing assuming its stats were to function perfectly! But no, it got BUFFED so that healing can happen and 600 HP Heavies are a thing. That's the capability that no weapon should hold, and it is still by and large a direct upgrade if constantly revving down, it just has no downsides if you control ALL of them and have the simple act of taking damage REWARD YOU. It just is no fun to fight against 1v1, and ALWAYS is in the enemy's favor.

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Hey guys new weapon revamp today
all weapons have been replaced with Matt Damon
Also all servers have a mod in which everytime an impact is made it's just me saying ouch
also sv_cheats are enabled on servers now
go funs and breaks game
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
happy hannukah or whatever

Bio-Waster:
Class: Medic
Model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=151944588&searchtext=
Slot: Secondary
(o)While healing, provides you and your target with a constant 40% resistance to the selected damage type but also a 20% walkspeed penalty. Press your reload key to cycle through these resist types.
(+)33% faster ubercharge rate on overhealed patients
(+)66% faster overheal rate
(-)33% slower ubercharge rate on injured patients
(-)33% slower heal rate
(o)Ubercharge will cause all resistances to be active at once, and will guarantee 100% critical resistance.

IDK what the heck I made, but whatever, cool Vaccinator clone yo.

Originally posted by sqwid:

Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

The Booster Shot, oh boy this Medigun. It sounds balanced on paper, but the potential it brings is rather scary. 250 Scouts, Snipers and Spies are all very powerful assets to the team, as well as having 600 HP Heavies, 400 HP Soldiers and so on. These values are intense and extremely unfun to play against. In a 1v1 of Sniper and Sniper, having that overheal is monumental to survival. So having pretty much a garunteed survival after a quickscope makes this Medigun pretty much Darwins Danger Shield in a beam! Sure Mediguns can do the same, and is promoted in high tier play, but this weapon makes it so much easier to do, with more HP to fall back on AND for longer. Oh, and having the DDS and this fully heal to 300 would allow an enemy to quickscope you twice and you could LIVE. Maybe the decay is faster than what I think it is, but having something as small as a small health kit can literally make survival thrice as easy, which is kinda disgusting to think about.

Jokes aside, the main issue I have with this weapon is its potential to overheal Heavies, Soldiers and any class to a value over 450. Because it exceedes even the highest burst damage in the game, and quite literally shuts down enemy Snipers. Because having to charge the shot fully, Twice in a row would pretty much make it an impossible feat to take out an ubered 900 HP Heavy, especially if that medic or multiple pocket him. Plus having more overheal seems to be a massive gain in comparison to the faster healing/less overheal of the Medigun, especially when playing on offense with carts being able to substitute healing power to get to the overheal faster.

I've tried to get this thing reworked but no one does anything about it. In competitive play it would very OP but unfortunately they balance these weapon among pubs rather than comp, which is a really bad way of handling things imo

Yeah. Believe me, I've done the same mistake before, and now I know that would be much more balanced.

Originally posted by Loreknight:

Originally posted by cTF2w DannyPlaysSomeGames:

How about it DOES deal crits on backstab, it just does no crit damage and no sound. Because it DOES notify the player has been hurt.

Is that a good alternative or no?

No, what i am saying is that CURRENTLY it does not. I am not suggesting a change, i am stating what it currently is

Well that's my suggestion for a change.

Originally posted by Loreknight:

Originally posted by cTF2w DannyPlaysSomeGames:

That's only for YER. Any other backstabbing weapon you can hear the crit.

(Spycicle technically counts too, but there IS a sound. It's just that the crit sound is replaced with the freezing sound.)

No, i am certain that the bomb planting knife does not have a crit sound on backstab, since it does no damage, and chawlz wanted it to not alert the victim immediately

How about it DOES deal crits on backstab, it just does no crit damage and no sound. Because it DOES notify the player has been hurt.

Is that a good alternative or no?

Originally posted by MEDIC!:

Originally posted by Loreknight:

The weapon is already being considered op as players confuse overpowered with annoying. The lack of cloak is an intended nerf. The enemy does not hear the backstab anyways

It makes a crit noise on backstab. Now that I think about it, perhaps it should deal the 3 damage on backstab, remove the crit noise, and go from there. The main complaint with the old one was that there was absolutely no indication you had been stabbed, while the new one alerts the person a bit too much.

That's a good thing. It gives the player an opportunity.

And no, scout doesn't count. There's no reason to backstab a scout. That's stupid.

Originally posted by Loreknight:

Originally posted by MEDIC!:

It makes a crit noise on backstab. Now that I think about it, perhaps it should deal the 3 damage on backstab, remove the crit noise, and go from there. The main complaint with the old one was that there was absolutely no indication you had been stabbed, while the new one alerts the person a bit too much.

The receiver of the backstab does not hear the critical hit. I know this for a fact.

That's only for YER. Any other backstabbing weapon you can hear the crit.

(Spycicle technically counts too, but there IS a sound. It's just that the crit sound is replaced with the freezing sound.)

Originally posted by Ducky Quackington:

Originally posted by cTF2w DannyPlaysSomeGames:

Who contradicted my statement?!??!?!

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This is where I would put my good weapon ideas

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IF I HAD ONE!

Well I can always ask....


THE CRIMSON CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!

Originally posted by Ducky Quackington:

Originally posted by cTF2w DannyPlaysSomeGames:

Note: Cannot add weapon due to cancellations.

Theorized cancellations but still.

Not right.

Who contradicted my statement?!??!?!

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