demo shield secondary

+150% charge recharge rate
+on impact: deal damage in a explosion
+on second charge trigger mid charge: send yourself skyward
+20% bullet dmg resistance

+25% explosive dmg taken
-50% charge duration

probably not even remotely balanced but hey, i just want an explosive assault shield.

Originally posted by Milf (The fan O'Milk):

Fair share - Medic medigun
Synchronize the health with the patient, what mean by the "sync" is that. You and the patient's health are added, and if the one is damaged, both of the players are damaged from the same damage source kind of like the pyro's melee 'the third degree'.

okay i gotta ask how would this even work? would it prioritize syncing the lowest health to the highest? cause having a 300 health medic is kinda busted as hell.

engi secondary: the saptrack (based off the robotic lightning hand secondary)

+200% damage to sappers
+auto locks onto sappers
+100% range (i forget if the original had a range limit so if it didn't forgive me and forget this)
+alt fire releases an emp that temporarily disables sappers for 10 seconds

-normal fire costs 5 metal/ emp costs 100 metal
-deals no damage to players

Originally posted by Mr.Chicken:

The Mini-me;

An scout melee that resembles a machete


+On hit Bleeding for 1.5 seconds

+On "backstab" you deal 40 damage and bleeding for 3 seconds

-No random critical hits

-20% health penalty

um, might wanna make that downside something like a swing speed down cause this doesn't even remotely have enough upside to suffer a fate worse than the candy cane or just being a more powerful boston basher

flash accelerator: demo launcher

+hitting an enemy directly marks enemies in the blast radius with "accelerant" causing any damaging side effects to be 100% more effective
+hitting an enemy directly rapidly ignites them for 6 seconds.

-50% clip size
-50% damage
-rollers shatter rather than explode

Originally posted by nuclearbomb42:

texas two barrel, called it:
(engi primary)
+40 pellets
+100 reload speed
-only two bullets per clip
-15 damage

oh boy. this is a bad enough post i have to ask about.

1) do you mean a +40% more pellets or an actual flat +40

2) doubled reload speed is what i assume you mean here as in +100% but again, i dunno

3) this is literally the only thing that's actually clear here.

4) again 15% or a flat -15. cause each pellet at max damage ramp up only does 9x10 damage meaning is it's a flat amount of damage your dealing anywhere from negative 60 to negative 90 damage (matches the positive spread weirdly enough.)

5)if this worked right then at we'd get (4-7) damage times 14 pellets which gets 52 to 98 damage respectively. and you can fire twice.... this is the kind of stat swap/weapon override that's generally considered worthless. no one would take this over the flat out better default shotty, or any of engis other primaries. we all want a double barrel blaster for engi, but it needs to be better than this.

please people make sure you're clear with your posts wording people.

enjoy a bad idea or two.

soldier shotty "last stop"

+150% damage to enemies at or below 90hp
+this weapon fires in a fixed "+" spread
+on kill this weapon grants a 35% speed boost for 10 seconds

-5 pellets
-75% damage to enemies above 90hp

pyro shotty "puff top poper"

+on flaming enemy kill: enemies explode in a large radius around their corpse dealing at most 70 damage.
+players on fire take 110 damage at most from the explosion
-100% self damage while this weapon is active.

-90% clip size
-50% reload speed
-80% reserve ammo

heres a weird future style minigun, based on the legion assult cannon from the other tf2 that exists.

buntar' (riot queller) - heavy minigun

+50% more accuracey ramp up
+dealing 500 damage grants you a charged blast
charged blast grants +500% more bullets for a single shot

-25% damage
-fire rate is slowed for 50% for 1 second and then ramps back up over 5 seconds post charge blast
-activating charged blast causes you to re-rev the minigun

burning stinger: soldier/ pyro melee
+on hit: stack a +50% afterburn vunrability debuff (up to 3 times) on your enemy

-66% damage

dragon breather: pyro/soldier secondary double barrel shotgun

+on hit: each pellet of the shot adds 1 second to it's after burn (this can stack between both shots)
+20% fire rate

-75% spare ammo
-66% clip size (obviously)
-50% damage on burning targets