Originally posted by Thrynity:

Originally posted by (◕ᴥ◕し):

i don't see how the 'marked for death' makes the maxine any less of a medispenser addict

mark for death make it "quick fix" addict ^^
I just mean that with this mini-gun you have to kill before getting too much hurt
if you have spin penality, you have to camp behind a wall to wait it to get spin, then kill easier than with actual version

well... thanks for stating the obvious?

Originally posted by Thrynity:

Originally posted by (◕ᴥ◕し):

Agreed

20% damage vulnerability sounds decent

I have chat with some player who love the Maxime
They love the "Suprise Ambush" gameplay enchancement
the mark for death is not overkilling
and... if like you said, you remove vulnerability and replace it by spin time
player would lose this aspect and will just become a "medispencer addict"

im for keeping the actual version of it !

i don't see how the 'marked for death' makes the maxine any less of a medispenser addict

Originally posted by Trash Man:

Originally posted by (◕ᴥ◕し):

I think the Maxine's 'marked for death' penalty is too harsh, because it basically turns the heavy into a scout with a minigun

my idea is to replace it wtih: 125% longer spin-up time & Kills don't drop ammo packs

More like a Soldier with a Minigun. 300 health + Marked for Death is equal to having around 230 health, though there is the Falloff Immunity to consider. In my opinion they should increase the spinup time (Like you said), and change the M4D to a 20-40% damage vulnerability.

Agreed

20% damage vulnerability sounds decent

I think the Maxine's 'marked for death' penalty is too harsh, because it basically turns the heavy into a scout with a minigun

my idea is to replace it wtih: 125% longer spin-up time & Kills don't drop ammo packs

L.A.W. Rework (aka Beggar's Bazooka 2.0):

+ Hold down attack button to charge the L.A.W. with rockets (eg Beggar's Bazooka)
+ Tap attack button to shoot a single rocket
+ All ammo gets reloaded at once
-/+ 2 Rockets shoot side-by-side, with a noticeable distance between them
-/+ 3 Rockets shoot in a triangle formation, with a slightly noticable distance between them
- Once max rockets are reached, they shoot off automatically within 1.75 seconds
- 150% slower reload speed
- 25% smaller magazine
- 25% smaller explosion radius
- 15% less projectile speed
- 10% slower firerate

Originally posted by Trash Man:

Originally posted by Thrynity:

Thought it was 5.5 second

A non-construction boosted sentry builds in 10.5 seconds, I believe.

^ the wiki says so too

Originally posted by Alessio_3ds (tEMMIE):

I would like if the Medic would be able to carry a shotgun :D (Primary)

no

the shotgun is too strong compared to the needleguns


.. but a needle shotgun...

Originally posted by LegoFan9o5:

A problem with the Immobile Sentry is that the spin-up and defence boost are too fast to be countered by virtually any class in a medium-close 1v1 scenario. A large deploy penalty could make it less powerful and punish those who deploy as soon as anything looks bad rather than being cleaver or strategic on placement.

In it's current state, it deals good damage and has the equivalent to 600 hp (300/0.50 damage vuln). Having hp on kill makes it a weapon you would never put down, as healing from the Sanvy or the packs on the ground are substituted for "Just kill some doods for health". The defensive boost is good enough, and the "No healing" penalty is there for a reason. This weapon is in no need of further buffing, especially that which awards the equivalent of +100 hp on kill!

Besides, you can sustain yourself easily, switch to your melee and use a health pack, or the Sandvich.

^

Originally posted by ヽ(ȍДȍ)ﾉ | cTF2w:

I don't like the whole Immobile sentry idea altogether
If you're going to play heavy on defense, just use the brass beast.

I personally like the idea (because I think I was the one who suggested, then again there is a swarm of suggestions in the suggestion forum)



But now that I have re-read my suggestion, one of the downsides I suggested was a move-speed penalty after deploying, so I guess that'd be nice.

More stats which could be latched onto the Mobile Sentry:
+ 33% crit resistance when spun-up (crits deal around 2x damage instead of 3x, but with damage resist it becomes 1x instead of 0.5x <- normal. non-crit damage)

- 235% longer spin-up time (tl;dr 2.0 seconds spin-up time)

- 40% movespeed penalty after shooting / revving for 5 secs


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Originally posted by Thrynity:

having -400% spin up make you wait 6 second !

exactly

Originally posted by Thrynity:

a sentry deploy faster than that !

actually, i think it's a bit slower than that

Originally posted by Thrynity:

(+) on kill : +50 HP

no

Originally posted by Thrynity:

(-) 20% longer spin up

too fast

mobile sentry op

plx fix:

+50% crit resistance
-400% slower spin-up rate