The workshop needs dev support doesn't it ? I mean, I think it needs the devs to support modding and modify the game so it can install and use mods easily, with a dedicated "Mods" menu like in Space Engineers, with maybe some kind of exclusive format that the game can interprete and manage as a whole, as a package.
And I don't think SE cares about mods AT ALL.
Correct me if I am wrong.

Anyway, it's not hard to install mods in XIII or XIII-2, you just have to copy paste some files and run the .bat... Invest time in some modding platform is probably not worth it.

Skyrim is not a good exemple, the workshop is one of the worst ways to mod it ^^
(load order, mods management, conflict managment, mod updates... Mod Organizer ftw !)

To answer your question I don't know if it requires Dev support but I don't think it requires a speciffic file format as long as you can automate the install. As to SE caring about mods I don't think it matters much as long as you do what Krisan is doing and try not to piss them off I'm pretty sure they don't care one way or the other. And though you are right about installing the mods being easy you have to install them in a speciffic order and there ARE complications at times. And skyrim? I agree with you on that but I also think there are so many mods with that that many conflict with eachother anyway. I mean install a dozen you really really want and chances are at least ONE will cause a crash due to conflict. I'm just asking if it can be done is all. I figure if Krisan can do it through workshop and Lable the order the mods have to be installed in then modding 13, 13-2 and eventually LR will be piss easy.

I only modded XIII-2 and the order is just CCP then the rest, isn'it ? Not hard at all.

I don't know how the Workshop works, but I suppose that devs have to work on some kind of interface so the game installs a mod automatically when you subscribe to it.
Or maybe the Workshop is only copy pasting mods in a designated folder, like you would do by yourself if you had downloaded the mod on the internet.

As for XIII games, I think it is most likely becauses mods are not only copy pasting to ADD new files to existing official ones : We have to run some sort of patcher Krisan made. The patcher MODIFIES existing files. So if the workshop is only copy pasting files in your game folder, it would only had the "Mod" folder and the .bat file in your XIII game folder, thus not installing the mod automatically.

The reason is, IMO, copyright : Krisan probably can't upload the modified files of the game because they are still SE property. So he can't upload, like, packages of his mods including modified game files that the Workshop would copy paste in your game folder, replacing exiting files.

Anyway, let's wait his answer ^^

I know he can't upload prepatched files as that would piss off SE and you are right about the order of 13-2's mods I think. I just figure he can automate the process a bit more even if he can't do a steam workshop project with it. Maybe make an install package that simply detects your game's location and backsup then patches the game for you without having to move any files. Dunno about you but moving the making a compressed backup of the largest files in the game folder as a slow process for me even given how good my PC is. And installing the mods is easier to screw up than you might think. Anyway you're probably right about workshop not being possible. It was just an idea(and one made while half asleep).

But if your only problem is about backup time because of compression, automating the process will not make your pc do it faster.

I'm only speaking for XIII-2, cuz I havent modded any other FF game : I sincerely don't know how you can easily screw mod installations with this game. Except if you are not confortable at all with file paths, copy paste and things like that. (but the readme is really simple to understand)

I tweaked Skyrim for around 800 hours, which is, as you said, way harder than XIII-2, so maybe I can't see the problem for games easier to mod because I'm used to it ^^

You misunderstand. If the process was automated then the file would be backed up by his installer then patched without having to move anything meaning the process taks less than half the time and is less likely to screw up. Even if an improved installer didnt detect the game's install location you could make it so you point to those files and the result would be the same. Look in the old 13-2 modding thread and you will see many people who screwed it up for one reason or another. The first time even I had some trouble with it. I think he improved the read me since then tho I'm not sure but I'm not trying to argue it. I'm just looking to find out if a simpler and faster way is POSSIBLE not get the idea poopood because of it's apparent lack of nessecity. Geez take a look around the descussions here and you will see LOADS of worse and less important ideas than this.

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DUDE! did you just troll me? Well I can at least live with that kind of critisism. Sorry I went off the handle. I'm just finding people more willing recently to miss my point and go straight for the argument. Frustrating really.

I didn't blame you at any moment for your workshop idea, because it is an IDEA and ideas are made to be shared with people so they can give their own opinion, which I did in all my previous posts.

I'm new in FF modding so I have only read some of the recents threads and pinneds ones.
Yup you went off the handle. No worries, I'm here to share ideas and opinions, not to argue.
But it's kinda hard to tell one from another on the internet, I give you that.
For some reason people on the internet are often looking for conflict and very touchy ._.


To conclude :
_I, me, myself, didn't encouter any problem installing Krisan mods for XIII-2
_I, me, myself, didn't find it difficult at all to do so
_I, me, myself, didn't backup any file because if there is a problem I only have to verify cache integrity and download some files for like 1.5 hour
_I, me, myself, respect your opinion BUT have difficulties to don't miss your point because I didn't encounter any problem, understand that
_I, me, myself, never make fun of/troll someone who is sharing his/her opinion about a subject
_I, me, myself, always make fun of/troll someone who is loosing control


Peace <3

All good bro. Word to the wise tho? Careful who you troll and the timing when somebody gets upset like I did. Some people it just makes it worse and it can get messy. I been too tired recently to get like that but some people do.

Get messy ? On the internet ?

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OR

http://i.imgur.com/ZV0vmBt.gif

Can't decide which one pick, I leave it to you :)


On a serious note : Touchy people should avoid internet, it's bad for their heart.

Ever try to tickle a person who actively hates being tickled? If you still have your nuts intact I guess not but the concept is the same really. you don't poke a lion in it's cage just because you think it's fun and you know he can't get you. It's a good way to piss off the lion and get yourself kicked out of the zoo. Don't get me wrong I hold no grudge and I'm not pissed off(not right now anyway lol) but it's just something I think people shouldn't do or at least should be careful to whom they do it.

Anyway enough on that lets drop it as it's completely off topic and I need to get to bed anyway. I'm compulsive in case you didn't notice. Always feel the need to explain things and reply to every comment made in my general direction. -_-

I think workshop drops in files to mod supported games.

Officially ff13 does not support modding, krisan defenitly cannot upload pre patched files due to copyright.