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FlamePurge 12 Jan, 2016 @ 1:30pm

FFVI Tools help - Alternate sprite for an "uncensored" Siren mod?

Edit - I went ahead and released this mod as FFVI Remaster Design Reverter. Check out this thread out here https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/ff-modding/discussions/10/451850849194652995/

Hi everyone, I hope you're all doing alright today. :)

After seeing Monterossa's sprite for his mod ( https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/ff-modding/discussions/10/451850213949131565/ ) of Siren, which gives the esper the bare-booty look in her halcyon SNES days, I was pretty appreciative of the sprite work. However, I thought that I could do better, and I decided to make my own version.

My sprite of Siren: http://i.imgur.com/2ElfYG2.png

I'm pretty happy with it. Here's a GIF comparison of Monterossa's mod and my sprite: http://i.imgur.com/xwYmpIA.gif

However, I tried to get her working in-game, and I was met with mixed results. She worked fine in the esper screen, but not in battle: http://i.imgur.com/g1j3axC.png

Does anyone know what's going on? Thanks so much for your time; have a nice day. :)

Edit 1 - I just noticed that it looks like the boss Goddess had a less revealing redesign too. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Goddess_(Final_Fantasy_VI) Compare the original, uncensored sprite (On the PS tab) to the one in the PC version. (The Mobile/PC tab) If someone wants to take a stab at it, by all means try, but it seems beyond my capabilities.

Edit 2 - http://i.imgur.com/P9TMYxp.png New design for Goddess closer to her original Super Famicom sprite. It took me almost four and a half hours, by hand with a mouse. Here come the cramps... Oww.

Last edited by FlamePurge; 7 Feb, 2019 @ 8:42pm

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Saftle

12 Jan, 2016 @ 5:11pm

I had the same problem when editing sprites. Basically the BMP has a specific indexed mode color table (color pallette), with a specific order. Programs like GIMP and Paint. net automatically re-arranged the color table order which resulted in what you see in that screenshot.

Either you have to manually change the color table order, until you get it working as you expect; or use a program such as Photoshop CC which does not re-arrange the color table automatically.

Last edited by Saftle; 12 Jan, 2016 @ 5:16pm

FlamePurge 12 Jan, 2016 @ 9:48pm

Well, dang. I thought this would be way over my head and it looks like I was right. It's a shame; I really liked the work I put into Siren's sprite.

Saftle

12 Jan, 2016 @ 9:53pm

I'm actually new to all of this as well, and a complete newbie in general when it comes to spriting. Definitely don't give up. It required hours of fiddling, but I figured it out with a little help from Nyxo and Krisan to understand what the issue was. Which program are you using by the way?

Jacktuar 13 Jan, 2016 @ 4:37am

Would photoshop CS2 rearrange the colour pallette?

Saftle

13 Jan, 2016 @ 4:57am

Originally posted by Jackstin:
Would photoshop CS2 rearrange the colour pallette?

I don't think it would. The easiest way to test, is to just re-save the BMP and add it to the game. If it looks ok, then it didn't re-arrange anything.

saltwifepenny 13 Jan, 2016 @ 9:05am

Man... I hate how we got releases without much censoring and then we get recensored despite the Teen rating. Thanks for the uncensored Siren! I hope someone does the same for Goddess, both edited versions of her just FEEL edited and that kind of editing always bugged me.

FlamePurge 13 Jan, 2016 @ 9:54am

Originally posted by Saftle:
I'm actually new to all of this as well, and a complete newbie in general when it comes to spriting. Definitely don't give up. It required hours of fiddling, but I figured it out with a little help from Nyxo and Krisan to understand what the issue was. Which program are you using by the way?

I have no idea. I was asking some friends for critiques on the sprite and I was just like, "Welp, I need to apparently figure out how to open TGA files." Said friend told me, "Oh, I can do that!" and so I sent her the original TGA and Siren's new sprite, and inserted them into the game... yeaaah. So here we are.

I know "if you want it done, you have to do it yourself," but I was honestly kind of hoping someone would be impressed with my sprite enough to do it themselves? Hahaha, wishful thinking, eh.

Originally posted by invaderskoo:
Man... I hate how we got releases without much censoring and then we get recensored despite the Teen rating. Thanks for the uncensored Siren! I hope someone does the same for Goddess, both edited versions of her just FEEL edited and that kind of editing always bugged me.

Siren's original sprite with the new skirt feels pretty well done, and from a design standpoint, I like Goddess' new top, but the ribbon covering her lower stomach does indeed look pretty out of place.

Last edited by FlamePurge; 13 Jan, 2016 @ 9:57am

FlamePurge 13 Jan, 2016 @ 1:41pm

As stated in an edit to the opening post, I just finished a "reverted design" for Goddess. http://i.imgur.com/P9TMYxp.png I guess it WAS within my capabilities after all! The trouble remains in getting her and Siren into the game, though.

Last edited by FlamePurge; 15 Jan, 2016 @ 10:49am

Monterossa 13 Jan, 2016 @ 9:48pm

You have to save the file in the same format as the original file, some files are PNG 256 colors, some are 16M colors. wrong settings = not working in game.

FlamePurge 13 Jan, 2016 @ 11:30pm

Well, thank you Monterossa. :) I appreciate the time you took out of your day. If I end up able to do a mod, I think I would put both my edits of Goddess and Siren's sprites in one package and call it the "Design Reversion Mod".

I don't suppose you would want to collaborate on this, would you? :p You get them working in-game after I did the graphics? Hahaha, sorry, just a joke. I know I have to do it myself.

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Monterossa 14 Jan, 2016 @ 2:08am

well I already made the uncensored sprite of the Goddess. I'm just waiting to test it in the game but I'm still far from the final dungeon.

your sprite looks better than mine anyway. I guess I can scrap it now.

to make the .tga sprite works in-game, you have to save the image in "Indexed color" mode and force the first color in the pallette to "FF00FF".

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FlamePurge 14 Jan, 2016 @ 10:41am

Thanks! I'll try to post my results later. I am curious though, what did your Goddess sprite look like? Do you mind sharing? :)

Last edited by FlamePurge; 14 Jan, 2016 @ 11:14am

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FlamePurge 14 Jan, 2016 @ 11:50am

So, I just tried it again and was met with this. http://i.imgur.com/J4UCsvb.png I have no idea what the hell I'm doing wrong. I saved it as indexed and the background color was FF00FF. Is my only other option to shell out money I don't have for Photoshop?

Last edited by FlamePurge; 14 Jan, 2016 @ 11:51am

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