Originally posted by Nyxo:

Originally posted by Dangus ))<>(( Taargus:

I'm not terribly experienced, but I'm looking into removing the bilinear filtering from both V and VI... I'll wait for your progress to see what can be done about VI, but in the meantime I was wondering to know if you might have any idea where to start looking in getting rid of the filter for V? Any help is appreciated!

The first thing I'd look for is following the thought that the sprites are being rendered on glquads (or some other GL construct), meaning that you just need to find the MIN/MAG filter settings for those surfaces. That's the first thing I'd look for anyways...

I can almost guarantee that looking inside the archives won't help you with this endeavour - you'll almost assuredly need to look into the .exe or an accompanying .dll file with a debugger.

ok that's what i thought, I was basically looking for this wherever I could find it:
glTexParameteri(GL_TEXTURE_2D,GL_TEXTURE_MIN_FILTER,GL_LINEAR);
glTexParameteri(GL_TEXTURE_2D,GL_TEXTURE_MAG_FILTER,GL_LINEAR);

it's referenced in the exe and the opengl32.dll with some light notepad++ hex snooping, but there are no clear values to manipulate, so I'm going to start using a real tool to open the exe, but not sure what to use.

Originally posted by Krisan Thyme:

Originally posted by Dangus ))<>(( Taargus:

That's good to hear. I've had to throw in the towel in regards to removing the bilinear filter on V and VI... maybe something will come from breaking into the .obb?

Already thrown in the towel? Shame to hear. I don't have the time to pursue it myself, but yeah it's not as simple a fix as some seem to think.

Well lets just say I was optimistic. I make games myself, and I code in java, and I occasionally have to reference the openGL renderer that handles EXACTLY this issue. But of course, that's code I have privileged access to. Obviously not the same here, as reverse engineering is not my forte... but I am finding it interesting.

I'm not necessarily throwing in the towel, but I've run out of intuitive ideas, and need more experienced people, with perhaps the knowhow to piont someone with the time (me, for the next month anyway) in the right direction.

I need to know how to reliably dig into exe's and .dll files. If I can get a more thourough explaination on how to do that, I'd be able to get more done I think.

If you don't have time yourself, do you at least know the proper tools to use?

Originally posted by Nyxo:

Hey guys. Sorry I didn't join this group sooner to let you know -- I've been working on file access for a little while now. The archive (main.obb) stores filenames as hashes, and encrypts all of the file data. In some cases, the files are compressed as well. The tool I'm currently working on (called "FFVIExplore"..) currently handles all of this transparently.

However, I don't have a complete file list yet, so about 7% of the files in the archive are currently listed as hashes (making it difficult to do mods that involve them).

I'm also currently working on the repackaging feature, so that mods can be saved back into the archive, and the game will use them.

Once these 2 things are done, it'll be release-able. Look forward to it guys!

I'm not terribly experienced, but I'm looking into removing the bilinear filtering from both V and VI... I'll wait for your progress to see what can be done about VI, but in the meantime I was wondering to know if you might have any idea where to start looking in getting rid of the filter for V? Any help is appreciated!

Originally posted by Krisan Thyme:

Something is being worked on now, so just wait a little while longer.

That's good to hear. I've had to throw in the towel in regards to removing the bilinear filter on V and VI... maybe something will come from breaking into the .obb?

While the sprites aren't great... is there anyway we could get a mod to turn off the bilinear filter on the sprites...I'd much rather settle for that in the mean time. I'm halfway through V and the blurriness isn't really bothering me, but I just launched VI and I'm blown away by their decision to use a bilinear filter on JUST the sprites... wow.

Thanks, I just might do that.

Thanks. I know it's not terribly pressing or intersting work, but it's a painfully overlooked aspect of Square-Enix's port work.

If I were to crack into this myself, where do you think I would start?

I find Square Enix's use of launchers for the Final Fantasy game's incredibly inconsistent. With the XIII series you can set it and forget it (the best implementation IMO, with III and IV you have no choice but to use the mouse to start the games (not Big Picture friendly), with 7 and 8 you also can't start the game with a gamepad (not to mention you need to hit X to get past the key config screen... any way to mod that out while were on the subject?).

V is the only game I am aware of atm that actually allows you to hit the Start button on a 360 controller to run the game.

Lastly, they all stay running in the background after you exit the game unless you choose the force quit option from the overlay. Not great for keeping accurate track of your hours played, etc, if you are still technically in game after you quit.

I know this is more of a technical request than a content mod request... and I am actually mildly inclined towards these types of things myself, so if there is any interest in this, or any knowledge on how one would begin to alter the way the games associate with their launchers, I would love to get the discussion started in that direction. I've been incredibly interested in playing the whole series in order on my Big Picture set up, and this is really the only hurdle to making the experience seamless.