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C.Sandwich 4 Aug, 2014 @ 12:41pm
Phishing "Reduction" Making My Trading Harder. Do You Feel the Same?
First discussion here so probably poorly done.
Phishers just got alot smarter since the counter measures made. True I am recieving less adds from them but now there is no way to tell a phisher before they send the link.
Now I've seen phishers adding me while in team fortress 2. Before this they only sent invites while online but not in game.
They don't add after bumps anymore, they add seemingly randomly. I recieved adds anywhere from just after to 50 minutes after a bump.
Fewer of them have private profiles, many even have steam levels upwards of 10 and an inventory of items, probably because these are hijacked profiles, but there's more of 'em (probably people reading "reduced phishing" as "complete removal of phishing".)
They don't respond instantly after I accept the add, some even wait for my response then take time to type their phishing message, but they're still bots.
No longer are the fake steam errors a common thing with their freinds, although they still mess up the messages. "i am interested in ur items and have keys trade! -phishing link-" Despite my lack of items worth keys being sold in trades, In fact I tend to take offers rather than have a solid price.
Now why did I open this discussion? Just to ask the real steam community (not the stearm communiuty) wether they're having similar problems. It's not the number, it's the AI. Personally I don't care, just block remove report and they'll never bother you again. On top of this I only get 2 a day in comparison to the old 20. At least 6 of them in a week use the old after bump private profile insta-reaction method. Also feel free to make jokes about phishing, that'll probably help. :demoticon: C.Sandwich
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Nooge 4 Aug, 2014 @ 2:21pm 
Since the update was released, I personally went from maybe 2-3 adds every hour to 0 a day. I have not had a single add from any bot since this update was released. I have seen bots that start conversations after I'd said Hello, I've seen bots in many different shapes and forms, even before this new update. So I can't say I agree with the bots making my trading harder, because (atleast for me) it has completely removed all bots from my profile.


"My mate thinks he will gain lots of respect if he can scam as many passwords and usernames as possible using his own program.

I wish he would stop Phishing for compliments."
Last edited by Nooge; 4 Aug, 2014 @ 2:22pm
There's really no discussion to be had. People asked for it, we did something to throttle their actions when one autobumps a trade. But like we said countless times by now, we can't stop people from creating accounts and adding users. That's a thing only Valve can do. Many people, including Steam forum moderators, say it's the user's fault: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/46476691830050832/
C.Sandwich 5 Aug, 2014 @ 3:38am 
Originally posted by wat:
There's really no discussion to be had. People asked for it, we did something to throttle their actions when one autobumps a trade. But like we said countless times by now, we can't stop people from creating accounts and adding users. That's a thing only Valve can do. Many people, including Steam forum moderators, say it's the user's fault: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/46476691830050832/
I'm pretty sure I didn't say "stop phishing now." I never said you could completley stop it nor was I begging for it to be stopped now. If there was a way somebody will figure it out. I guess first discussions don't go well in TF2 Outpost.
Originally posted by ᅚC.Sandwichᅚ:
Originally posted by wat:
There's really no discussion to be had. People asked for it, we did something to throttle their actions when one autobumps a trade. But like we said countless times by now, we can't stop people from creating accounts and adding users. That's a thing only Valve can do. Many people, including Steam forum moderators, say it's the user's fault: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/discussions/forum/0/46476691830050832/
I'm pretty sure I didn't say "stop phishing now." I never said you could completley stop it nor was I begging for it to be stopped now. If there was a way somebody will figure it out. I guess first discussions don't go well in TF2 Outpost.

Let make it simpler for anyone to follow: either phishers add you after a bump or they add you randomly. The latter is the chosen method due to the restrictions imposed by us. Which one do you prefer? There is no 3rd option.
C.Sandwich 5 Aug, 2014 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by wat:
Let make it simpler for anyone to follow: either phishers add you after a bump or they add you randomly. The latter is the chosen method due to the restrictions imposed by us. Which one do you prefer? There is no 3rd option.
What are you trying to say? I never said anything like this, how about we just forget this discussion ever happened.
Your quote from the topic title:

Phishing "Reduction" Making My Trading Harder.

The reduction is a consequence of option #2. Removing the fix will return everything to how it was (#1). There is no point in discussion option #2 because the only alternative is option #1. Steam doing something would be option #3, but we all know that's not going to happen.

Originally posted by ᅚC.Sandwichᅚ:
how about we just forget this discussion ever happened.

Originally posted by wat:
There's really no discussion to be had
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