AFAIK you have to list specific hats AND specific prices.

Use common sense, how is the quickbuy spam reduced if you just add the names of the items from the whishlist to the notes? Not at all, your new trade still says the same: "i want all your stuff for basically free, i just add basically nothing compared to others unless they already pay too much which i decide on my own".

One trade like this adds already enough spam, more trades like this dont add any extra value to the seller.

If that's the case how would adding the price reduce the quickbuy spam too? There's still going to be the same number of trades asking for the same thing. If anything, all it would do is make the trade a whole lot longer and a whole lot more ugly so that when they expand the trade they have to scroll 10 miles down the page. Just adds an annoyance.

And then I don't understand y

...our last point because the sellers are only going to see one trade per search unless they are searching for multiple hats at once, which is the only way they could be informed that I'm buying both.

So my common sense is telling me that there is no difference between a quickbuy trade with prices and without prices in terms of spam.

sorry I accidentally hit reply lol

Well, consider this: instead of listing prices on every item amazon would say "you can buy it for 2 cent less than the best deal you can find, unless we decide that deal doesn't count". And now imagine every other internet shop would do the same. What kind of customer experience would that be?

Luckily amazon doesnt do that, and the others also dont do that, and because of that there are these nice websites where u can enter a search team and u get a bunch of results all with a nice price tag assigned and you can choose what to pick.

So yes, there is a difference if all these trades list a price or not. But logic doesn't count on the internet, only rules do, iirc my first answer is still valid, but feel free to wait for confirmation of a more colourful name than mine .

I see what you're saying about my trade and I can understand why you don't like it but what you're commenting on is irrelevant to the relisting rule. I want to confirm that by specifying which hats I am buying in each trade, I am emphasizing each trade's different purpose and thus not violating the rule.

Thanks for the reply though and yeah, a staff response would be cool.

For now I have decided to list the trades because as far as I can see they do follow the rules. Just to make it clear I'm going to list all the reasons behind why I feel that the trades do not violate the relisting rule.

Rule: "No relists. Relisting is creating multiple trades for the same purpose or listing the same item in multiple trades excessively. You cannot have multiple trades open with the same goal, and you cannot have an excessive number of trades open for the same item."

Here is why the trades follow the rule and are not created for the same purpose/are not for the same goal:

1) The trades are all for purchasing different specific hats, as emphasized by the notes section of each of the trades. This means the trades have different purposes/goals. None of the trades contain the same hat. The purpose/goal of each trade is to purchase the specific hats listed, thus they are different.

2) If you're going to say that they all have the same goal because they are all looking to buy quicksells, this is too general. That's like saying someone is relisting because they have multiple trades which have the goal of buying (although this example is on a slightly more extreme scale). Also, by the logic that they are breaking the rules because all of the trades are buying quicksells, that would mean the many other trades which are listing prices would be breaking the rules too. Listing the prices has no effect on the purpose/goal of the trade, so you can't close my trades on that basis without closing all the other mass-quickbuying trades that do list the prices.

If anyone has any other points that indicate that the trades are violating the relisting rule, feel free to post them and I will do my best to counter-argue.

A staff clarification would be very much appreciated. Thanks.