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Mostly I notice the people who do this price commenting have empty backpacks, either newbies, small children or people who invested nothing in terms of either time or money and mistake outpost for a discussion forum...many times they don't even have the item relevant to the trade they post in, or no hope of paying, in other words, window shoppers.
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I've been tracking him for a while, he's added me several times over a couple different accounts, and everytime he does a freak out, he's so bad even his google cache had a -rep on his profile, just look at that trade, he angers so many people a day they all remember and screenshot his bad behavior, yet he seems to get a slide. I did post post the info i had on him on outpost mod jons profile,... .. people can't report him at this point because he doesn't have an open trade.
We can't enforce rules outside the site, if he chooses to be an ass on steamchat then so be it, but we are not steam, and we are not banning for people being rude outside the site.
ok, but he finds all his trades through outpost, he never posts on the trades, he just adds people by the boatload from outpost to abuse. it wouldn't be enforcing a rule outside the site to just give him a signal that he should stop this kind of thing right? he is after all abusing tf2outpost users....
Remember, the reason the rules exist is not to restrain users, but to ensure the site works properly, and efficiently. Someone simply saying "I think this should be worth 2 ref", does not impede the functioning of the site at all.
Every time you report one of these perfectly innocent posts, odds are, we will ignore the report, and close it. Remember, the rule specifically states "(No) Derogatory statements made regarding the value of the trade or listed prices." A person's opinion does not damage the value of the trade. This rule specifically concerns comments like "Duped hat, 50% off nao", and I feel the reason in the report system interface is a bit ambiguous.
But remember, for every minor post you report, you are delaying the cessation of more important issues, for example, banning phishers (something I believe you were discussing in another thread), or banning scammers.
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Point me to the rule that says anything about discussing prices.
I can admit that some people just go out and say "ha nice joke, nobody will buy that"
But I saw some people reporting stuff like "Hey you might want to reconsider your prices, as the marked standar bla bla bla"
Which in my opinion is downright retarded, of course there are grey areas where people get loads of attention and they get tired of people who keep asking for a lower price even tho you just rejected the guy above who offered the same.
I mainly made this thread so i could Private message users who reports for really stupid things.
If you want to see "how the market reacts", comments on your price are such a reaction. So what is it, do you want reactions or not?
I don't get why you have to recreate your trade, even if it would be full of "spam". Since this mostly applies to fixed price trades, what do the number of comments matter anyway?
And btw, bookmarks are overrated.
Why should discussions/comments about prices not be possible on "any good trading site"? The price is a major part of trading after all.
Why do so many people claim only they have to have the right to get the best of everything? Set a high price, don't have to deal with comments, don't get offered items unless it's a (further) huge overpay, don't get added when not paying the wanted price / until the offer is accepted - but still allow to be added when it's a "too good to refuse" offer, etc. ...
If you want to have your peace, make your trades and prices in such a way. Otherwise deal with the consequences and stop complaining and reporting.
In other words you must be forced to make trades to prevent price commenters from having a chance to spout their nonsense? No, sorry you have it the wrong way around. Everyone has the right to post a trade, yes, but people who price comment are neither customers or people who add anything to the trade, they effectively waste everyones time, for what? Giggles?
You are saying everyone should have to change their behavior to account for the bad behavior of a few...thats just wrong. Those price commenters have the right to refuse to buy, and move the hell on, else they waste everyones time including their own.
Put it this way, if someone has to resort to price commenting, it says they are having trouble finding that item, or else they would have just bought the item from someone else instead of wasting their time whining, thus their complaint is invalid by default.
Yes, you should change your behavior in the way to stop complaining yourself. You have the right to simply ignore them without making a fuss about it, that's the whole point here!
Exactly, so what's the problem? Ignore them and sell for your price without problems...
I honestly don't care. Go ahead and comment on my price all you want, I don't care. If I feel the need to, I will reply and defend my price, otherwise just hide your post. And if you annoy me, I will block you.
There, dealt with it like an adult without having to cry for mommy.
I rarely sell for the low or buy for the high end too. But lately I don't have much time to trade, so I "only" try to sell my backpack expanders just under the high end of bp.tf, not above that - and I even don't try hard doing that either right now.
But if I wanted to really spent time trading again, I would rather lower my price, sell faster and make even more profit by having a shorter turnaround time. Economics 101, that should also come with experience.
Nobody said anything about linking to other trades... that may be crossing the line, imo. And there may be a separate rule against that: "hijacking trades", if you interpret that loosely. But why would he need to re-open his trades? [/quote]
If you set a high price and must fear nobody will buy from you because someone points out that your price is not the lowest around, you seem to be the inexperienced one making assumptions.
Someone relying on the inexperience / exploitation of good faith of other users to sell well above market price must be a real experienced trader and everybody else is just a noob and the trading site has to protect and babysit you at all costs, is that it?
Sorry if I don't agree and sorry if I don't support that kind of attitude.
I'm sorry, it comes down to this, I shouldn't have to ignore them, they shouldn't be wasting peoples time in the first place, its not the place for discussion or basically whining about something that is none of your business in the first place. It really just ends there. They have no business being there if they don't want to do business.