Why don't you look at their icon?
It shows weather they are online or not.

Because some are offline on Steam but get a notification immediately when a friend request is sent. I'm guessing through bots/scripts/extensions.

Originally posted by Ace of SpadesRFG:

Because some are offline on Steam but get a notification immediately when a friend request is sent. I'm guessing through bots/scripts/extensions.

That sounds counter intuitive to what you are complaining about. I though you didn't want to add people who are offline, so just look at the icon.

Not to mention that people can easily bump their posts without being on steam as well. Sounds like you just don't want to trade with people who support the site you are using.

It would be great if this was implemented. I strongly agree, I hate combing through all of the many day old trades that are auto bumped.

as King said (twice)
Just look at the bloody icon.

http://puu.sh/2ZNYm.png THIS MEANS IN GAME

http://puu.sh/2ZNYR.png THIS MEANS ONLINE

http://puu.sh/2ZNZY.png THIS MEANS OFFLINE

Originally posted by The Once and Future King:

Originally posted by Ace of SpadesRFG:

Because some are offline on Steam but get a notification immediately when a friend request is sent. I'm guessing through bots/scripts/extensions.

That sounds counter intuitive to what you are complaining about. I though you didn't want to add people who are offline, so just look at the icon.

Not to mention that people can easily bump their posts without being on steam as well. Sounds like you just don't want to trade with people who support the site you are using.

Nope, it's that the majority are offline.....so I scroll and scroll and scroll to find one person online on the third page. And yes you can bump it yourself but not when you're sleeping or away for two weeks on vacation.

Sounds like you're a donator that does this and are getting defensive.

Auto-bumped trades are spam. Even ignoring the huge amounts of useless offline trades you can't filter out, online status itself isn't much help either. People idle for items or leave the PC on overnight. With manual bumps you can tell people were at the PC very recently and are still interested in the trade. When I add people from autobumps, it often takes ages for them to respond, sometimes they never do or tell me the items are out of stock or whatever.

Autobumping just sucks. That the site owners offer features that are opposed to the site's primary function just to encourage donations is frustrating.

Originally posted by skirts:

Auto-bumped trades are spam. Even ignoring the huge amounts of useless offline trades you can't filter out, online status itself isn't much help either. People idle for items or leave the PC on overnight. With manual bumps you can tell people were at the PC very recently and are still interested in the trade. When I add people from autobumps, it often takes ages for them to respond, sometimes they never do or tell me the items are out of stock or whatever.

Autobumping just sucks. That the site owners offer features that are opposed to the site's primary function just to encourage donations is frustrating.

There are a couple of problems here. First, the site is not just for people who want to immediately buy or sell something and cannot wait for that person to come online. There are plenty of people who prefer to choose the best of several offers over time and thus bumping trades gives them more time to be offered on.

This doesn't mean that there couldn't be a 'filter by online' function in search- the problem is that it's just too expensive to check the online status of every user in the search, instead the cached icons shown have to be used, meaning that there's every chance users that are not online will be picked up, and users that are online will not be picked up, each generating their own set of complaints. That said, I still like the idea of being able to filter by online state.

Originally posted by Zemnmez:

Originally posted by skirts:

Auto-bumped trades are spam. Even ignoring the huge amounts of useless offline trades you can't filter out, online status itself isn't much help either. People idle for items or leave the PC on overnight. With manual bumps you can tell people were at the PC very recently and are still interested in the trade. When I add people from autobumps, it often takes ages for them to respond, sometimes they never do or tell me the items are out of stock or whatever.

Autobumping just sucks. That the site owners offer features that are opposed to the site's primary function just to encourage donations is frustrating.

There are a couple of problems here. First, the site is not just for people who want to immediately buy or sell something and cannot wait for that person to come online. There are plenty of people who prefer to choose the best of several offers over time and thus bumping trades gives them more time to be offered on.

This doesn't mean that there couldn't be a 'filter by online' function in search- the problem is that it's just too expensive to check the online status of every user in the search, instead the cached icons shown have to be used, meaning that there's every chance users that are not online will be picked up, and users that are online will not be picked up, each generating their own set of complaints. That said, I still like the idea of being able to filter by online state.

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense when explained than just making wild accusations like I don't support Tf2OP or to "look at the bloody icons". I turn off my adaware and click an ad every visit which is multiple times a day.

Thanks again, Zemnmez.

Originally posted by Ace Rührei:

Originally posted by Zemnmez:

There are a couple of problems here. First, the site is not just for people who want to immediately buy or sell something and cannot wait for that person to come online. There are plenty of people who prefer to choose the best of several offers over time and thus bumping trades gives them more time to be offered on.

This doesn't mean that there couldn't be a 'filter by online' function in search- the problem is that it's just too expensive to check the online status of every user in the search, instead the cached icons shown have to be used, meaning that there's every chance users that are not online will be picked up, and users that are online will not be picked up, each generating their own set of complaints. That said, I still like the idea of being able to filter by online state.

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense when explained than just making wild accusations like I don't support Tf2OP or to "look at the bloody icons". I turn off my adaware and click an ad every visit which is multiple times a day.

Thanks again, Zemnmez.

Well Zemnmez is a lot more technical than me ;_:

Originally posted by Ace Rührei:

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense when explained than just making wild accusations like I don't support Tf2OP or to "look at the bloody icons". I turn off my adaware and click an ad every visit which is multiple times a day.

Thanks again, Zemnmez.

Your idea was still ridiculous. There's a difference between filtering out people by online status and donator status. You wanted a feature that would erase all the people who actually help supporting the site just so you can get a quick deal.

I support the idea of only showing people who are online as long as it's easy to switch back. You don't want everyone to use this option and forget that there might be good deals from offline users as well.

Originally posted by Ace Rührei:

Thanks, that makes a lot more sense when explained than just making wild accusations like I don't support Tf2OP or to "look at the bloody icons". I turn off my adaware and click an ad every visit which is multiple times a day.
Thanks again, Zemnmez.

These are absolutely not wild accusations. It is a fact (not an accusation) that you can easily look at the icon to see who is online. If you want to disable donator trades then you would basically be encouraging people to not donate to the site and clearly do not donate yourself which certainly sound like you do not support the site.


If you want to see a wild accusation then:

Originally posted by Ace Rührei:

Nope, it's that the majority are offline.....so I scroll and scroll and scroll to find one person online on the third page. And yes you can bump it yourself but not when you're sleeping or away for two weeks on vacation.
Sounds like you're a donator that does this and are getting defensive.

The fact is that when I am away from home for a lengthy time I turn off autobump on all trades that are not long term (like a few days for work, I don't go on 2 week vacations because I have a job and am a productive member of society.). This means the only trades with autobump on for me are unusuals or salvageds and the likes. Sounds like you are a non-donator who is all whiney because donors do not have to bump their trades manually and is too greedy to part with just a couple items to support the site you use for trading.

Originally posted by Zemnmez:

There are a couple of problems here.

You've named one exception to the general spammy nature of autobumping: trades collecting offers that would be autoclosed if they weren't bumped. If I'm not mistaken, autoclosing happens when there hasn't been any activity on a trade in two weeks? If autobumping is to protect those no-activity trades from being closed, why don't you autobump daily or weekly? Or offer an autoclosing exception to donators?

Can you name another way in which autobumping makes trading easier rather than more difficult? Not trying to be antagonistic here, but let's face it, most people use autobumping to get the front page repeatedly regardless of if they can actually trade the items anytime soon or even have them anymore, you know it and you tolerate/encourage it because it gets you donations.

Filtering by online status would be neat, but it's a workaround to a problem you introduced in earnest with autobumping.

Originally posted by skirts:

Can you name another way in which autobumping makes trading easier rather than more difficult?

I do not have to log onto the site to bump my trades. They will bump automatically while I am watching TV or Playing TF2 (where I am also at my computer and able to trade).

Originally posted by skirts:

Not trying to be antagonistic here, but let's face it, most people use autobumping to get the front page repeatedly regardless of if they can actually trade the items anytime soon or even have them anymore, you know it and you tolerate/encourage it because it gets you donations.

If they do not have the items to trade then report their trades and the staff will close them.

Originally posted by skirts:

Filtering by online status would be neat, but it's a workaround to a problem you introduced in earnest with autobumping.

Easy solution: Check the online status icon.

Originally posted by The Once and Future King:

Originally posted by skirts:

Can you name another way in which autobumping makes trading easier rather than more difficult?

I do not have to log onto the site to bump my trades. They will bump automatically while I am watching TV or Playing TF2 (where I am also at my computer and able to trade).

You're confirming my assumption here. Why do you need to bump it so often? The motivation for bumping is to get to the frontpage, supposedly because your trade is more important than others. Autobumping in that sense is a paid spot on the front page every half an hour.

Originally posted by The Once and Future King:

Originally posted by skirts:

most people use autobumping to get the front page repeatedly regardless of if they can actually trade the items anytime soon or even have them anymore, you know it and you tolerate/encourage it because it gets you donations.

If they do not have the items to trade then report their trades and the staff will close them.

That doesn't address the fundamental problem with autobumping.

Originally posted by The Once and Future King:

Originally posted by skirts:

Filtering by online status would be neat, but it's a workaround to a problem you introduced in earnest with autobumping.

Easy solution: Check the online status icon.

That just doesn't address anything I said there.