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Yaroslava 8 Jan, 2013 @ 1:04am
Exchange rate must be driven on a cross nonprofit platform
Exchange rate is usually a combination of interest rate decisions, unemployment rates, inflation reports (Is Valve a trustworthy “government”?), gross domestic product numbers (same question) and manufacturing information.

FUNNY STUFF: Yesterday a key was 3.44, now 3.66. There are heavy arguments about which spreadsheet is legit.

My question is, are there at all any legit anchor spreadsheets on metal and keys?
There must OF COURSE be more than one anchor, for this legit exchange to work both properly and professionally. Otherwise it will end up in a sort of Mafioso website, where owner owns and criminals have their favorite c/take.

My own answer to this problem must be that a cross between various legit anchor spreadsheets is summed up on one platform (site). Nonprofit, of course. Until then nothing is legit, if you ask me.
If that is not comprehendible, then; 3 scraps -> 1 rec x3 -> 1 ref x3 -> 1 key x3? > something and so on… Someone did invent the first part, why not invent the last part too?
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Yaroslava 8 Jan, 2013 @ 2:00am 
Interesting "public beta" link, ran by one profiled person. How data are retrieved is not described however retrieved via 4 sites. Way too much downtime. But format looks legit.
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Yaroslava 8 Jan, 2013 @ 2:09am 
Btw, I bookmarked http://tf2finance.com/keys/ - that is about the most honest price sheet Ive seen so far. Still wanting to know how data are retrieved.
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His Wardship 8 Jan, 2013 @ 8:10am 
Anyone who uses a "spreadsheet" or any form of price guide is going to be screwed over in the end. There is no such thing as a "legit spreadsheet". No item in TF2 has any assigned value, it's all arbitrary community values based on rarity and popularity.

Keys aren't going up in value, the metal used to purchase them is going down in value, due to the increased amount of people playing TF2 (Therefore more weapons, more metal) and people with hundreds of idle alts using VMs like Sandboxie.
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Nose 8 Jan, 2013 @ 9:30pm 
If you don't like the price someone is setting for the item that you want, don't buy it. If enough people refuse to buy said item, the price will be lowered so they may be able to sell it.

Me, I don't buy into promos/keys/metal etc. why? Because it gives almost no cosmetic value, and I prefer to trade my items for other items instead of for promos, then items again.
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Uranium235 9 Jan, 2013 @ 11:10pm 
This gives a little scientific insight: http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/economics/

I have to disagree, the price for Keys is going up, not the value of metal down. The recent runaway price of keys cannot be explained with so many more people playing TF2 in such a short period of time. If it was true that metal is being devalued, why then do the items we trade for metal not jump in prices in the same way Keys do?
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Uranium235 9 Jan, 2013 @ 11:24pm 
And the reason you cannot set a fixed price / conversion rate for keys like you can for metal (and weapons and tokens) is, because you can't convert one into the other with certainty, like you can with paper money into coins and back.
Keys are a commodity and are pretty much down to Supply and Demand (and arguably speculation, hoarding)
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Yaroslava 10 Jan, 2013 @ 3:40am 
No doubt you are right, Uranium235, unless the "government" suddenly changes the premises beyond any recognition.
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Yaroslava 10 Jan, 2013 @ 3:45am 
Which btw leads to my other post, what would happen if Valve suddenly introduced a real black and a real white paint...?! Just the thought of watching the paint market explode to pieces would be humorous in some way. But that' side point.
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Uranium235 10 Jan, 2013 @ 6:47am 
I really don't get what you mean, with the government argument.

And if you drastically increase the supply of one good ("real black and white paint"), where demand roughly stays the same, the price of that good, and what it's competing with ("old b/w paint"), will rapidly decline. Why should anything else ("the paint market") be affected?
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Yaroslava 10 Jan, 2013 @ 9:33am 
The system valves have set up (the bp, the store, the crafting) could be changed totally. Therefor the premises for trading could also change drastically, beyond something we know of today. The "black" and "white" paint is within the paint market. Not talking about "anything else".
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Uranium235 10 Jan, 2013 @ 9:52am 
I get it, I misread your comment. I read "I doubt you are right" lol
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