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Can we make a price limit rule?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7846434

4 ref trades are greedy, but it does happen.
5 ref is not going to happen for a long long time if it keeps going.
This user wants to post a 5.33 and brags about having 1,000 keys

Is this a real trade? Personally, if someone posts a price that is outrageous(to the point where he's got no chance of a buyer) it feels like "not a real trade" but slapped on a price to make it look real.

There will be different opinions of outrageous, but maybe we can set some kind of fair rule that only a troll would price it that high.
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His Wardship 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:23pm 
Troll trades are already against the rules, but adding a limit on what you can price your items at? A definite no from me. Whose to say what price is correct, more importantly, whose to know if any price is correct? An item is worth as much as someone is willing to pay.
gukingofheart 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:35pm 
Champelliot I think I'm going to sell a key for 10 ref.
That's fine with you, right?
Then I'm going to say "Look at all those keys in my BP"

Not being mean, I'm making a point.
Like I said, it has to be high enough that everyone can agree it's way too unfair even if you find someone interested in the item who would never pay it even if they're desperate.
His Wardship 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by KingOfHeart:
Champelliot I think I'm going to sell a key for 10 ref.
That's fine with you, right?
Then I'm going to say "Look at all those keys in my BP"

Not being mean, I'm making a point.
Like I said, it has to be high enough that everyone can agree it's way too unfair even if you find someone interested in the item who would never pay it even if they're desperate.

Certainly not, if I was a site mod, I'd close that. Sam has already mentioned, there is a general 200-300% limit on pricing, keys being about 3 ish ref, 10 ref would be excessive. 5 ref though? That's fine.

More stringent price limits would be a terrible introduction, and would damage OP's reputation as a free market.
gukingofheart 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:47pm 
Oh, thought that was an oppinion my fault.
Doesn't work too well for cheap items.

A item worth 0.11 and is priced for 0.22, or 0.33 still could be sold in some cases.
It would be nice to have a different percentage fot cheaper items.
Uranium235 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:48pm 
Just out of curiosity, how can you be more than 100% under value? Do I have to ask s.o. to also pay me double the value to take his item before I get into trouble? ;-)

But I guess you meant it like this:

Item is worth 100 Keys:
>= 200-300 Keys (200-300% of the value)
<= 33-50 Keys (33-50% of the value)

But your boundaries could also be meant like this (not sure):
>= 300-400 Keys trying to sell (200-300% over value, which is 300%-400% of value)
<= 25-33 Keys looking to buy
Last edited by Uranium235; 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:49pm
His Wardship 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:53pm 
Obviously the 200-300% limit would be inverted to 50%-66% below value, but that's just basic common sense.
Uranium235 17 Jan, 2013 @ 4:58pm 
My common sense tells me that the inverse of double to triple is a third to a half, not a half to two thirds... and you did notice the ;-) ?

Or did you mean by 50..66% below value 100% - 50..66% = 33..50%, then that's exactly what I said.

The difference, me being unsure in, lies in "of the value" or "over value" - which is not so obvious to me because people often use that incorrectly.
Last edited by Uranium235; 17 Jan, 2013 @ 5:11pm
Happy Cake Oven 17 Jan, 2013 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by Champelliot:
Troll trades are already against the rules, but adding a limit on what you can price your items at? A definite no from me. Whose to say what price is correct, more importantly, whose to know if any price is correct? An item is worth as much as someone is willing to pay.

Absolutely.
His Wardship 18 Jan, 2013 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by Uranium235:
My common sense tells me that the inverse of double to triple is a third to a half, not a half to two thirds... and you did notice the ;-) ?

Or did you mean by 50..66% below value 100% - 50..66% = 33..50%, then that's exactly what I said.

The difference, me being unsure in, lies in "of the value" or "over value" - which is not so obvious to me because people often use that incorrectly.

You end every post in a ;-), so it really loses all meaning. (What little it had in the first place).

And, just for the records, I was giving the figure for the remaining value. Take 66% off 100% and you get 33%.
Uranium235 18 Jan, 2013 @ 6:48am 
Originally posted by Champelliot:
You end every post in a ;-), so it really loses all meaning. (What little it had in the first place).

And, just for the records, I was giving the figure for the remaining value. Take 66% off 100% and you get 33%.
I honestly don't get it.

Where do I end every sentence with a :wink:? I like to think I only use that to mark "not so seriously meant / ironic" sentences. At least here I only see that one above.

And if you were giving the figure (50..66%) for the remaining value already, what sense does taking the remaining value of 66% off 100% make?
The result would be the portion of the value that you are trying to buy below the base price. But I thought we agreed that that is not the case. You may buy trying to save 33%, nothing wrong with that.

Anyway, I hope you can see that juggling with percentages combined with "over/under value" and "of/off the value" might confuse people, not the least because it is often used incorrectly.

It all comes down to this (and correct me if I'm wrong):
If you see a trade where someone is trying to sell his item for more than double to triple it's price or trying to buy for less than half to a third it's price, you may report that trade.
Last edited by Uranium235; 18 Jan, 2013 @ 7:01am
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