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BLUE_CAT 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:18am
What is a "scam"?
So there have been a few situations for me that seemed normal, but turned out that I was a "scammer" all along. Here are the situations:
1. I was in a trade server, saying in chat that I'm buying a Name Tag. Some guy asked me to trade. I accepted. He added Name Tag. I asked him what he wanted. He replied "i dunno maybe a rec or something". I accepted a trade, it seemed fair enough to me. So we made the trade. Then the chat and the microphones came all shouting and laughing how I scammed someone because Name Tag is worth 1.33-1.66 (Source: http://backpack.tf/pricelist/full as of 2013-01-21). The guy seemed not to mind it and leaved the server after about 10-20 minutes.
2. A guy was selling Strange Shotgun. I traded him. He said for me to offer. I gave him a Key. He was OK. We made a trade. Turns out I "scammed" another person because the Strange Shotgun is worth 4-4.33 (Source: http://backpack.tf/pricelist/full as of 2013-01-21). Then the I traded started to called me a scammer, judged about my sexuality and said he was having pee-pee friction pleasure with my mother. I then left the server of his annoyance.
3. Some guy was selling a key for 3 Refined. Ofcourse, I bought the key and the rants started how I was a scammer, because a Key is worth 3.33-3.55 (Source: http://backpack.tf/pricelist/full as of 2013-01-21) and that I will be reported to SteamRep, tough the person I traded really did not care as far as I can tell.

My question is, are any of these situations "scammy"?
Another question is, are bargain trades. (e.g. bought a key for 2.66 Refined) called scamms?

Thanks.
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queef supreme 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:21am 
before you trade others, make sure u check prices. but you're lucky
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Uranium235 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:21am 
Simple: nothing to worry about. You are not a scammer.
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BLUE_CAT 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:25am 
So unfair trades aren't scams?
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His Wardship 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:36am 
Complicated topic. The SR definition of a scammer is: "A scammer is anyone that uses deception, thievery, lies, or anything that is underhanded to take advantage of or steal from another trader."

Steal is a key word here, basically a scam means I agree to give you X amount for a certain hat, you give me the hat and I never pay, there are a few other scenarios, but that's the most common one.

Getting what you call "a good deal" (I hate that term) is fine within reason. If you buy an unusual off someone for a few keys, odds are you'll be marked as a shark, and banned from pretty much everywhere, however that only applies in extreme cases. (As mentioned, like Unusuals for a few keys.)
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BLUE_CAT 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:42am 
OK, thanks for the reply.
I don't plan on ever buying an unusual so I guess I'm safe for the time.
Tough, it seems (kinda) unfair because I would be left guilty because somebody doesn't do his homework on price-checks. Anyways, I don't think a person with a Unusual would not know about his/her hat's average price.
You can lock this discussion or something whatever is possible here if you want.
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His Wardship 21 Jan, 2013 @ 7:46am 
But that's the point. If someone is unaware of the value of their item, you should inform them, not exploit them for it.
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