Hey there,

I'd like to ask about the new bot rules, specifically about the one stating that bot owners can only run a single bot.

No more than one. You may only advertise one bot on the website at any one time. If you are found to have more than one account running a bot then all of your accounts will be suspended.

1. Am I getting banned for running multiple bots but advertising only a single bot?
2. Example case: If I'm running 2 bots, 1 sells keys and another one sell tour of duty tickets (both are very well stocked). How can I advertise both?

This rule makes sense if there is someone running 10 key bots with 10 separate tf2op accounts, but it doesn't make sense if you are running 2 completely different bots.

20:26 - Zemnmez: I haven't been briefed on this, but I believe the correct way to do it would be to have one account with two different trades each for one bot
20:29 - Zemnmez: my suggestion is to post on the forums
20:29 - Zemnmez: sneeza does read the forums

Originally posted by Zemnmez:

Yeah, I know how to convert 32 bit IDs to 64 bit.

These are "partner IDs". I haven't really found and explanation for them anywhere or why is Valve using them. (Probably because Javascript can't handle the "7656..." type properly.)

Originally posted by Zemnmez:

Originally posted by HusKy:

I have posted this elsewhere but you should protect trade offer URLs as well.

Hm. That's a good idea.

Related: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/0/38596747823331166/#c38596747828890194

Originally posted by wat:

Proxy detection is a totally different beast.

Yep. I have hinted this on bazaar and the admin told me they already bypassed the resolver by switching proxies.

I have posted this elsewhere but you should protect trade offer URLs as well.

Originally posted by Jurassic Pkms:

Originally posted by HusKy:

You will have only 10 trade slots without premium. Good luck doing any serious trading with that.

Chill, I am asking for you guys' opinions, no need to make comments like that.

Trust me, I'm very "chill".
I just pointed out that it's almost impossible to do any serious trading with only 10 trading slots.
Premium costs less than 3 keys/month. It's up to you to compare the pros and cons.

Several people have already lost their free premium status (previously lowest donor rank) and they are now paying for premium because they know it's still worth it.

Originally posted by Sneeza™:

They can, but the request to resolve a steamid has rate limiting and just sends back an error when they try to request too many steamids too quickly.

One more thing. Trade offer URLs are not protected by the resolver, but they include partner ID. I have explained these IDs in this post: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/0/38596747823331166/#c38596747828890194

It would be probably best to hide these as well.

You will have only 10 trade slots without premium. Good luck doing any serious trading with that.

Oh, so you have your own rate limiter. In that case, all is good. :)

edit. Actually, this is probably the best solution you could have come up with.

Originally posted by Sneeza™:

There's rate limiting on the amount of requests to Steam profiles that can be made, significantly reducing the throughput of each bot. It's a significant reduction in what they can process.

Actually, you can just read all the necessary information from the headers. You never have to visit steamcommunity website. Or perhaps I'm just missing something.