Originally posted by DFS ExDe707:

Originally posted by HusKy:

And your point is?

People sell/ buy for ridiculous prices, like the trade I posted before. They get a massive amount of customers.
However, when people sell/ buy for fair prices, they get no customer.
What's that sort of a question anyways?

The trade you posted is several months old.
Define massive. Seems like nothing special.

"However, when people sell/ buy for fair prices, they get no customer." --- No?

Are you just generalizing your own frustration?

And your point is?

Originally posted by WanXpy #sellingCheapGames:

Originally posted by HusKy:

The bots do the same thing as people - they just browse the website just like any normal user.
They can't be properly detected and thus you can't stop these bots without making the website utterly useless. This has been mentioned countless times.

Yes they are doing it like any normal user but they do it very super fast. I don't know if this is detectable... Ok i give up. I'm not security professional. At least can a warning put in the site to not click links ? :/

It's detectable but you also have to think 1 step forward.
Can you circumvent such detection system? Yes, very easily.
Any broken solution like this is no solution at all.

On the other hand if Valve.... who are we kidding, they will never do anything.

edit. Actually, js obfuscation might work. Maybe ... maybe ...

Originally posted by WanXpy #sellingCheapGames:

Originally posted by HusKy:

I will create completely legit account, buy expensive stuff to fill my backpack with, buy trading cards to level up my steam profile. How do you know this account isn't used to harvest IDs?

i am not pro but can't be there a limit to get id's in a exact time ?

The bots do the same thing as people - they just browse the website just like any normal user.
They can't be properly detected and thus you can't stop these bots without making the website utterly useless. This has been mentioned countless times.

Originally posted by WanXpy #sellingCheapGames:

Originally posted by HusKy:

Where would you put this captcha?
Level system? Explain ...

https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/groups/tf2outpost/discussions/0/540742667241291751/

They can make site login only but they don't want it because it make using the site more difficult(?!).

Look this is not serious problem for me. But i am seeing a lot of child and sometimes adult getting pished. I love tf2outpost and just want it more secure.

I will create completely legit account, buy expensive stuff to fill my backpack with, buy trading cards to level up my steam profile. How do you know this account isn't used to harvest IDs?

Originally posted by WanXpy #sellingCheapGames:

Originally posted by HusKy:

It can't be fixed by TF2OP, it's simply not possible. Why is it so hard to understand?

It can. There is no easy way of course. But two of the solutions which are level system and captcha already rejected.

Where would you put this captcha?
Level system? Explain ...

Originally posted by WanXpy #sellingCheapGames:

Originally posted by norby89:

This is what most people seem not to understand. Even if you do have account for harvesting SteamIDs you can make it look 100% legit and never use it for phishing. That's why it's impossible to do anything about it without ruining everyone's experience.

Ok continue to serve pishers excellent service for their job.

It can't be fixed by TF2OP, it's simply not possible. Why is it so hard to understand?

Originally posted by WanXpy #sellingCheapGames:

Originally posted by Blue Screen of Dea†h:

Making the site login only will destroy SEO and hurt the traders using it. Bumping our own trades is useless - most ignore staff trades.

Create fake accouts to bump? i know this is hard work to ban them all manually but if you want to get rid of these pisher bots you must do something cause everyday new accounts hijacked because of this and joins the army of bots..

You don't need a Steam account to harvest SteamIDs.

Good job spreading the phishing links.

Valve will restore your items automatically when they give you your account back.