Furthermore, lets say sneeza didn't implement this. Outpost would run out of money and be forced to shut down.

Guess what, you'd all lose your donations completely and you wouldn't be able to use Outpost at all....

P.s. it never says the perks will last forever.

Originally posted by ehh_:

http://web.archive.org/web/20120922225850/http://www.tf2outpost.com/donate

Donating up to $5 will get you the following benefits:
The trade activity limit raised by 5, which will stack with other boosts.
Your trades will automatically bump every 2 hours, so you'll get exposure 24/7!
The adverts on the side of the website will be removed.
The ability to use holiday themes all year round!
The great feeling that you've helped keep this website online and maintained!

McCoolName, your points are invalid. When I donated I was told I would get the above benefits. Autobump is being taken away, so I was misled and like everyone else, is feeling ripped off right now by this revenue grabbing move.

Originally posted by EARBALLS:

The perks were promised for life as a reward for being a supporter of a site that needed support. If they want to change to a subscription that's fine, but you can't take away what you've already promised to existing donators. We made you and you're showing zero respect for our support. You won't get a dime from me only because of the lack of respect.

Where exactly does it say these perks will last forever?

Originally posted by -|WaD|- jnr Mace:

People are complaining about not having it.. You already used it for however long, and you are complaining its going away? You are getting a shit ton for free, and remember, it was a donation. They were just perks..

However, clearly Bazaar has a better form of donation.

Bazaar also has the load and monetary needs of Op months ago. Lets see what bazaar is doing when its under the load that OP is.

The question you should all be asking:

Did i benefit from donating? Have you at least broken even? 99.999999% have at least made 1 scrap more then they donated, so you're already all ahead. and 99.99998% of you will make at least 1 scrap more than the monthly cost by donating. You're making it out to be a much bigger issue than it needs to be.

Besides, you "dontated". Donations don't imply you get anything in return.

@Sam, i can see where you're coming from, honestly i think sneeza should add 1 donator status, which gives you 2/3-hourly bumps. and then premium gives you extra slots/30 minutes bumps/any new features.

Originally posted by ehh_:

most websites invoke advertising when they aren't making enough. (and I find it hard to believe outpost wasn't already breaking even with donations) so there's always that. You're trying to make existing users pay for a service they thought they had already paid for. They gonna leave, or use greasemonkey scripts to autobump for free. sad to see this happening.

Ya....how dare sneeza try to make money off of something that makes so much money for so many people...i mean, sneezas time is free...if he wasn't running Outpost he wouldn't be working or doing something else....would he?

I swear, you people need to use your brains once in a while.

Sneezas time isn't free. And if anything this isn't bad. So donating essentially costs more, that will result in less donators which will give you more exposure. Not really seeing an issue here....

@Cedar, find someone to donate for you.

Originally posted by Blatch bazaar.tf:

Originally posted by Alex From Security #Charity.tf:

Everyone is playing devil's advocate.
It takes a LOT to support that many members and users on the site.
Even more so with CS:GO support.
Albeit I don't like the "subscription" part of it, past donators are gettting 3x extra what they already paid for. I think that is pretty awesome.

Agreed. I'll still use the extra months I'll get to the fullest. Heck, it's like when Scrap.TF removed the fee for hatbanking and gave free priority to anyone that paid it before. That was awesome, and this will be just as much.

Yep, and actually it might make things better. Right now there are sooo many donators that you really dont get a lot of exposure anymore. With this new system, donating might cost more but you'll also get more exposure as not everyone will have it.

@yNOox Im sure there will be a note somewhere saying the time you paid, but does it really matter? when its up just renew.

@Sneeza, when will the change actually take place?

@Sneeza, so if the issue was mainly taking items then why not just accept cash and not switch to a subscription based payment? (I'm assuming its because the server needs more monthly revenue?). P.s. you should consider adding a flat donation amount that gets paid once and bumps every 2 (maybe 3 to add more of an incentive to go premium) hours (like what was in place) and supplement that with premium.

Also adding some additional features to premium status might make people consider it more

/not complaining, honestly i don't see a problem here.

Originally posted by Sneeza™:

Originally posted by Awesome McCoolName:

Ok people.

1) Outpost is still free to use, calm down.
2) Sneeza created a site which allows hundreds of thousands of people to make profit, so i don't see anything wrong with him trying to make some money off of it.
3) There are about 400,000 regiestered users....You do realize that a server big enough to support that kind of load is quite expensive....

@Sneeza, do you mean hourly bumps or 30-minutes? (not sure if typo or it changed)

The autobumps will be every 30 minutes now.

Alrighty.

sounds good.