It's been there since always it's just not obvious.

Originally posted by Champelliot:

Yes, I'll finish here, levels do have bearing, unique, not so much, vintage, massive bearing.

Yep to sum it up levels only matter to collectors. Vintages are more of a collector's item in the first place and odd levels on them are more desirable especially if they are unique levels like 0.

You said that levels have an effect on the value for every player and I disagreed. Anything else?

Originally posted by Champelliot:

Originally posted by norby89:

This is TF2Outpost for Christ sake not DeviantArt. Nobody will ever need 300 colors.

Look, I'll stop this argument here. He asked for a list of "all colors available". I gave him one, you didn't.

Why did you even feel the need to turn this into an argument? You gave him a list of generic colors, I gave him a list of TF2 items colors that is most useful on TF2Outpost.

OP happy. /thread

Originally posted by Champelliot:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5410905
I can tell by your BP that you aren't a "major" collector of anything. Go to that trade and offer him 3-4 keys and tell him that "Levels have no meaning at all" and that he's only using it "to manipulate the price of an item".

First you're talking about lv 42, 69, 100 items. Now you're linking me a lv 0 vintage item. Get your facts straight. And you're wrong, I'm a collector too I just don't collect special levels. :P

FYI I got many "special" level items in trades and nobody ever asked me for extra because of the level.

Originally posted by Champelliot:

Still, it seems stupid to give a person 9 colours. Do you ask a (not modern obviously) artist to paint a picture with 9 colours without mixing? Nope. Anyhow, the list I linked had about 300 colours, so while hardly all, it's a better list. Check before posting.

This is TF2Outpost for Christ sake not DeviantArt. Nobody will ever need 300 colors.

Originally posted by Champelliot:

Incorrect, levels have an effect on the value for every player. Very rarely will you see someone saying "I don't care about levels", and normally those people are people who are making quickbuying trades anyway.
I've sold multiple Lv 0, 100, 42 etc items to people, and none of them had collections.

Incorrect, levels have no meaning at all and they're only used to manipulate the price of an item. Normal players won't care and won't pay more for special levels unless they want to resell them to collectors.

Originally posted by Pretendeer:

A buyout is just that, an offer that would instantly buyout whatever is being traded.

Originally posted by Champelliot:

Originally posted by norby89:

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Item_quality

That's like 9 colours, hardly a link "to all colors available".

Sure why not list him all 16,777,216 colors? Go ahead.

I can set my buyout to 100 buds if I wish. It doesn't mean I will only take that offer though.