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Electors of Holy Roman Empire (Vassal of Vassal Electors and Transfer Electorships)
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Electors of Holy Roman Empire (Vassal of Vassal Electors and Transfer Electorships)

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Description
What does it do?
This mod allows vassals of vassals of the Holy Roman Empire to become electors, just like they did in CK2. Now, the historic Prince-Bishops of Mainz, Cologne, Trier can become Prince-Electors even if they are vassals of dukes, not direct vassals of the Emperor!

This mod now fully supports dynamic Electors which are created when the Empire is restored in 867. No worries if you created the Holy Roman Empire yourself!

Additionally, the players can enact a decision to incorporate duchy-level or kingdom-level electors which are not de jure vassal of HRE. Duchy-level electors will become vassals of Kingdom of Germany, while kingdom-level electors will become vassals of HRE itself. This function is useful for 1066 Duchy of Luticia (i.e. Nordmark, Brandenburg), which is not de jure vassal of HRE and thus cannot get a vote even though it is one of the seven Elector-Prince titles.

With the "Title Manager (Fix)" mod ( https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3338556330 ), you can transfer the electorate status from one title to another. Via a Title Manager decision, the "target" title's electorate status will be transferred to the "designee" title. The "target" (upper button) should be the current elector, and the "designee" (lower button) should be the title that you want to make an elector, and not the other way around. Note that barony-level and empire-level titles cannot be electorates. Also, be careful that the county-level electorate titles will be treated as spiritual (theocracy) electorates, so the AI Holy Roman Emperor will convert those titles into theocracy using the "Liberate Spiritual Electors" decision provided with this mod.

Future Plans
In the future, this mod is planning to support granting and revoking electorate status seamlessly.

Compatilbility
Changes the following vanilla file:
  • common/succession_election/01_princely_elective.txt
Will not be compatible with other mods that change this value.
Not Achievement-compatible.

Supported Languages
  • English
  • Korean
42 Comments
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bighungryjames  [author] 3 Mar @ 8:54pm 
BTW, East Franconia is not actually the electorate title; Count Palatinate the elector had the actual title Pfalzgraf of Rheinland, and was one of many pfalzgrafen. So the East Franconia should have some flavor event where it changes its name into Rheinpfalz or Rheinland. So your mod seems to be aware of this problem as well.
bighungryjames  [author] 3 Mar @ 8:47pm 
No problems! Glad you get it right.
Richard Hamster 3 Mar @ 7:32pm 
Nevermind. I guess playing with the More Bookmarks mod where there is an actual Duchy level Pfalz made me forget vanilla calls it East Franconia. I just dejure transferred the electorship to Pfalz from East Franconia because this mod reverted the changes that mod made. Thanks!
bighungryjames  [author] 3 Mar @ 5:35pm 
Oh, if you mean that why the Pfalz is not participating as an elector? Then there should be other reason why It is not participating, such as: being the emperor (because the base game always have 8 electors), multiple electorate titles being held by the same person (8 electors rule), or etc. The game treats spiritual vassals as having the higher priority than secular lords when determining who's going to get this temporary electorship.
bighungryjames  [author] 3 Mar @ 5:32pm 
Transferring it back should work if you change the target title and the designee title the other way around (a switcheroo).
bighungryjames  [author] 3 Mar @ 5:30pm 
Based on the base game behaviour, I treated county--level electors as the spiritual electors (Mainz, Trier, Cologne) and the duchy-or-above level electors as the temporal electors (secular electors: Bohemia, Brandenburg, Pfalz, Saxony). Markgraf, or "count march", and Pfalzgraf, "count palatine", are actually ducal-level titles because they can oversee lower counts. They were also historically treated as superior to other counts.
Richard Hamster 3 Mar @ 8:26am 
Hello friend? Tell me why I this mod change the secular prince electors to ecclesiastic electors. Meaning the electorship of count palatine went to some county level bishop that is my vassal?
And I cannot transfer it back
bighungryjames  [author] 2 Mar @ 4:28pm 
Welp, if the Pope is your vassal, or your de jure vassal or holds any kingdom title that is a de jure vassal of the HRE, then he has the highest priority score because he is likely to be the only kingdom-tier theocracy amongst the elector candidates. That is the vanilla behavior and I haven't touched anything on that.
Tito Lounge 2 Mar @ 1:04am 
did you change antyhing about how the electors are chosen if the "standard" electors arent available? since the update, the pope seems to always become an elector if there is a free position when, for example, the emperor holds one of the elector-titles
bighungryjames  [author] 15 Dec, 2024 @ 12:21am 
If that mod does not change the file common/succession_election/01_princely_elective.txt, then yes.