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(FNaF) FNaF Wall Prop
Created by Geozek
If Frisk wants this removed then I'm fine by it. The prop physics are kinda weird, just deal with it though. I ain't fixing shit. Model by: The Derpy Frisk / FriskSFM Textures by: Dank2233. Enjoy?...
Angie Ultimate Pose
Created by MrXade
A pose made to reflect the character portrait of the spiritual Angie Yonaga, as seen in her official artwork from Danganronpa. Like and Favorite if you enjoy it :D Model made by dewobedil ...
Anime frisk and chara
http://i.imgur.com/EhboJnc.png So this mod actually has a funny story, you see originally I wasn't gonna upload this and keep it to myself, but as I kept making it it became more high quality then some of my public mods, so I thought I should let everyone ...
Byakuya Ultimate Pose
Created by MrXade
A pose made to reflect the character portrait of the elite Byakuya Togami, as seen in his official artwork from Danganronpa. Like and Favorite if you enjoy it :D Model made by dewobedil Glasses from Persona 4 Models Requires TF2 textures and models...
Deltarune Susie Playermodel
Created by SBHScion
My susie playermodel made in ZBrush and finalized in Blender. Includes working face flexes, fingerposing and eyeposing This was originally made for Half-Life 2 as a replacement for Alyx, check it out if you want at Gamebanana! Link: https://gamebanana.com/...
deltarune_school [DELTARUNE MAP]
Created by flowerbed
This is the school from Deltarune! Mainly taking inspiration from the school in Chapter 2. I made it over the last week and I'm super proud of it. Feel free to use the map in any animations or videos, but please leave a link to the map in the description :...
Demon Miku
Created by dewobedil
TDA Demon Miku from MMD http://i.imgur.com/Mtpn5Dz.png ● Playermodel ● 2 NPCs Enemy & Friendly (Vocaloid) ● Ragdoll ● Firstperson view arms ● Bodygroups (Horn, Tail Hair, Glasses, Neck Acc, Clothes, Tank Top, Bra, Pants, Shoes, Skin) ● Facepose / Eyepose (...
Devilsknife (Deltarune)
Created by Anachronistic ALLOS
"Let's make the Devilsknife!" ~ Jevil, moments before your HP drops to 0 ===== Model Introduction and Origin ===== Deltarune is a recent title released by Toby Fox, creator of Undertale; taking place in some sort of alternate timeline, a new yet familiar s...
Doctor Alphys (Undertale)
Created by Denic
Dr. Alphys is a female, reptilian monster that lives in the lab in western Hotland. She is the incumbent Royal Scientist, a position she was awarded by Asgore after the death of her predecessor. Find the SFM version here! --- Important! Please read before ...
Drunk Sans
Created by LostBoy
Sans gets drunk off of ketchup, and tries to attack Asriel because Sans thinks Asriel is Chara since he's drunk. So Toriel tries to protect Asriel from Sans. Look outside the window of Grillby's!...
Empty Hands Swep
Created by Tatrabbit
Hands by your side for roleplaying, movie making, and when you just gotta put your crowbar away! The functionality is pretty minimalist by necessity, but I've tried very hard to have a nice icon for the swep and everything, to match the theme of the HL2 we...
FF Frisk (Undertale)
Created by dewobedil
FF Frisk from Undertale http://i.imgur.com/Mtpn5Dz.png ● Playermodel ● 2 NPCs Enemy & Friendly (Undertale) ● Ragdoll ● Firstperson view arms ● Bodygroups (Necklace, Flowers, Clothes) ● Facepose / Eyepose (using faceposer) / Fingerpose ● Hitboxes for Deathm...
Fnaf 2 Plushes
Created by 🖤Tyran🖤
this Addon will fix the Plushie textures for the Five Nights at Freddy's 2 Map Hope you Enjoy~ ^-^ Credits: TF541Productions - Map Maker/Texturer/Porter/Childrens Drawings/Stand RobGamings - Modeler/Porter/Texturer/Organizer SalamanceSFM - Texturer\Bathroo...
Fnaf FFPS Pizzeria Map
Created by Rocco The Puppet
Credit: Sfm Version https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1596438704 Person Who Made Map https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/profiles/76561198360304447 Credit to SonFan 2 for making a map Includes: sfmfnaf6mapventssmallerref.bsp ...
fnaf world model pack
Created by gamingturtle4
Hello all you steam users i'm quit steam for awile but now i'm back :). so here are some models from fnaf world. THEY ARE RAGDOLLS SO SHUT UP ABOUT THE EFFECTS. As of right now the pack includes adventure freddy adventure bonnie endo 01 adventure withered ...
Friday Night Funkin Boyfriend death sound
Created by SUMTER
BF death sound from Friday Night Funkin Это мой первый Аддон Tags: Boyfriend fnf FNF Funkin death death sound sound Friday Night addon...
Pride Flag
Created by Zia Bones
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Homestuck Grub Ragdolls
Created by The Archivist
Here are some Homestuck Troll grubs as ragdolls. To spawn them, go to Spawnlist -> Addons -> Homestuck Grub Ragdolls Includes: - Vantas grub - Megido grub - Two (2) Nitram grubs (Rufioh & Tavros) - Captor grub - Leijon grub - Maryam grub - Pyrope grub - Se...
Homestuck Model Pack
Created by Skyplayer
WHAT'S THE HAPS? 4/13 Homestuck has ended. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Original Description Hello Homestucks! I've been a big fan of Babyfawnleg's "Homestuck Playset" (go download it fi...
Homestuck Playset
Created by BabyFawnLegs
Looking for HERO MODE?: Homestuck Playset 2 (Beta) is now available! Player models and goodies based on the characters and content from the webcomic MS Paint Adventures! Don't hesitate to contact me on Twitter (@BabyFawnLegs) or tumblr (BabyFawnLegs) with ...
Homestuck Playset 2
Created by BabyFawnLegs
Homestuck Playset 2 More player models and goodies from Homestuck! Featuring all 12 alpha trolls, everyone's favourite human being, Jade Harley, an assortment of troll-themed weapons and tons of outfits and cosmetic items to customise your player model wit...
Kaito (XenoAisam)
Created by alatnet
------------------------------------------ (Note from uploader) This model is not mine, all rights are XenoAisam. I am only uploading it to the steam workshop. If you would like to know more about this model visit http://xenoaisam.deviantart.com or http://...
Kris Dark World Playermodel (DeltaRune)
Created by Christianity Gaming
Kris is the main character in the 64 bit viral game called Deltarune by toby fox the same creator of undertale credit to m-chi for making the model and thumbnail modeler's youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfyXDHvmQiVE5LkNceCyqLA modeler's newgroun...
Meiko
Created by Anfrien
Not a Player Model Credits: * Model and Textures designed by 0077jin and MomomiyaMisha * Revised by Anfrien (WinterMyth) * First render designed by Acrias Includes: anfrien\2017\vocaloid\meiko\meiko.mdl...
Papyrus (Undertale)
Created by Denic
Papyrus is the brother of Sans and a major character in Undertale. His main motive is to capture a human so he can become a member of the Royal Guard. Papyrus is a flamboyant skeleton who presents a confident, charismatic image of himself. He works hard an...
Papyrus Undertale [Playermodel]
Created by The Sacrifice
I finally did it!! My first playermodel is now completed!! This is a model i made myself in blender and i thought it would be a good idea to have it in garrys mod. I actually owned it to a guy named Timbleweebs and his tutorial series, go check him out!! I...
Plushie Collection (Props)
Created by Estefanoida™
Some cute and fun plushies for you :3, it includes all the ones you see here: Drakey and Meggie, two characters of mine ('couse why not??) Sans and Papyrus, two characters from the great indie game Undertale. Some of them have body groups and skins! Models...
Sans (Underfell)
Created by dewobedil
Sans from Underfell http://i.imgur.com/Mtpn5Dz.png ● Playermodel ● 2 NPCs Enemy & Friendly (Underfell) ● Ragdoll ● Firstperson view arms ● Facepose / Eyepose (using faceposer) / Fingerpose ● Hitboxes for Deathmatch or Trouble in Terrorist Town ● Jigglebone...
Sans (Undertale)
Created by Denic
A lazy skeleton with a humerus attitude and a taste for bad puns. Make sure you stay on Sans' good side and you won't have a bad time. Also on Source Filmmaker! Download the playermodel here! --- Terms of Use (Rules) Questions & Answers --- Notes Images ar...
Sans(Underfell) Purple Reskin
Created by Nocturne.
Model not mine. All credits to dewobedil. So it's a retexture of Sans(Underfell). ...
TDA-Friday night funkin Character Pack
Created by driscollgamer
Note: I don't know how to do custom arms so there won't be any, unless someone else wants to do them. There are playermodels for the following characters: -Boyfriend -Sky -Pico -Dad -Garcello( I made him) Planing to add: Mom If you want GF in this style th...
TF2 - Undertale SOUL Cosmetic
Created by CalTheSpy
"Seven human souls, and King ASGORE will become a god." Happy 2017 everyone! To celebrate, I'm uploading something new! A model! This is a reskin of the Heart Of Gold cosmetic, giving it the colored SOULS of the Six Human Souls in Undertale. It's got six c...
the box
Created by VivzPhobia
whats inside?...
The Ruins UNDERTALE gmod map
Created by Toreodoreo
Note : Due to the editable version of the map completely dissapearing, i had to release this early unfinished version so as to not go through another 3 months developing it, as a result of this all music is missing and must be downloaded from a separate dr...
Trans Pride Flag
Created by Aemyn
A trans pride flag, sturdy and reliable....
UNDERTALE - Final Corridor
Created by saintblue52
SFM Version https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=593726227 Hello guys! This is my first map, A recreation of the final corridor from Undertale. It features: AI Pathing Custom textures Custom sounds Custom soundscapes Custom models Some eas...
Undertale - GM_Lily_Realistic_Ruins
Created by Lily McFluffy Butt
READ THE DESCRIPTION! DON'T LOOK LIKE A RETARD! THIS MAP REQUIRES NOTHING! Now that that's out of the way, welcome to GM_Lily_Realistic_Ruins, my own realistic version of the RUINS! omg guize its undertale lets go attack it lol Testers: Peacock, TheBillina...
UNDERTALE - MTT Resort
Created by saintblue52
http://i.imgur.com/XC2JZoG.png http://i.imgur.com/Rf6Qb6R.png CONTAINS TTT AND SANDBOX VERSION Welcome human! This map is a full recreation of Undertale's MTT resort, Designed to be played in Sandbox or Trouble In Terrorist Town gamemodes! Months of work w...
Undertale - Toriel R18 [PM & NPC]
Created by Pacagma
This model was commissioned by HurricaneRocker DISCLAIMER: Requested models do not determine the direction I am heading in with my ports. --Features-- • Skins • Ragdoll • NPC • Playermodel (with blinking animation) • Custom viewmodel • Bodygroups • Facepos...
Undertale : Asriel Dm
Created by *Yok*
Hi everybody this month been a big Undertale theme to me, so i have made a lot of them recently but this one will be the last one i will make for undertale. This is asriel in beast from and I will make the hyper death soon. Enjoy the fun you can make of hi...
Undertale : Asriel Dreemurr
Created by *Yok*
This model made by Yoksaharat.Deviantart.com If you want more of these kind of monster besure to not borther me. Also this only take 2 days to finish. Preview Image From a lot of my friends. SFM : https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=56977...
Undertale Death Screen (Game Over)
Created by Vicky Frenzy
Now you have the Game Over screen of Undertale when you die! Now with settings for the Sandbox Tool Menu! Client cvars list: xp_uds_enabled: Enable(1)/disable(0) the screen for yourself. Default: 1 xp_uds_playercolor: If it should use your player color (1)...
Undertale Frisk & Chara Playermodel
Created by Sinful Mario
"You're filled with DETERMINATION" Since there was no Frisk or Chara model I decided to do one myself. Model Features: Scaled Frisk and two Chara models(They are short!) Viewmodel hands Playermodel Bodygroup hearts/souls Bodygroup knife(only for Chara) Cur...
Undertale Player Models (Includes fixed T-Poses ,C-Arms and Hitboxes)
Created by Shane
UndertaleRP is a non-serious roleplay gamemode based on DarkRP for Garry's Mod themed around the Undertale universe and its alternate universe Deltarune. Under Rune is my UndertaleRP server, and the official UndertaleRP server. You can expect fun times, go...
Undertale Puddle's Frisk PlayerModel
Created by SallyShift
Frisk by, автор образа фриск - https://vk.com/id482023850 Group of frisk's author, группа автора образа - https://vk.com/luja_art Not working with this addon - https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1385615608...
Undertale Real Knife NO GODMODE
Created by Frosty sharp
= thanks for 10k subscribers :) = ADD ALL GAMEMODE *PROPHUNT *MUDER *DARKRP ======================== MODIFICATION ATTACK *crowbar hit (kill props in prophunt) finish ======================== -Update 1.5- *Modification -Reduced the sound -sound Adjustments ...
Undertale Sans abilities.
Created by CrishNate
>>This addon is no longer supported<< Features: Miss: Every 0.5 Seconds, Miss is reapplied, Rendering all damage taken ineffective, Any damage taken between misses has a chance to instantly kill you, If not do alot of damage. (After all, Sans only has one ...
Undertale Sans Abillities Server Remade
Created by SubArrest
An addon I changed to run on my (not 24/7) server to give admin only perms and include the gaster blaster model. Original author/addon: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=641835607 -gaster blaster model: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/shared...
Undertale Snowdin
Created by Theo
Translate By Google ^^ Undertale Snowdin A was created on demand for Team Sapphire. Its creation lasted 1 month and a half. This map is the representation of the Snowdin map of Undertale. This map can be shared easily. I do not create any copyright on this...
Undertale The Ruins
Created by Theo
Translate By Google ^^ Undertale The Ruins A was created on demand for Team Sapphire. Its creation lasted 1/2 month. This map is the representation of the Ruins map of Undertale. This map can be shared easily. I do not create any copyright on this map and ...
Undertale Waterfall
Created by Theo
Translate By Google ^^ Undertale Waterfall A was created on demand for Team Sapphire. Its creation lasted 1 month. This map is the representation of the Waterfall map of Undertale. This map can be shared easily. I do not create any copyright on this map an...
Undertale: The Dreemurr Pack (Asriel/Toriel P.M)
Created by ✯Heaventy✯
Introduction: To end this dark year 2020 and give a little color to these festive years I propose you to end 2020 with a new content on Garry's Mod! Indeed after literally 3 years of waiting for a development incident break this content is finally present ...
Vocaloid - Raven Rin [PM & NPC]
Created by Pacagma
This model was requested by Gemini DISCLAIMER: Requested models do not determine the direction I am heading in with my ports. --Features-- • Ragdoll • NPC • Playermodel (with blinking animation) • Custom viewmodel • Bodygroups • Props (glasses) • Faceposin...
[Warning: ABANDONED CONTENT] Undertale Knife SWEPS V2. With Leveling and Mercy!
Created by Jereapieya
This mod is now abandoned, Sorry for the inconvenience. Downloaders' Descresion is advised UPDATE March,27,2020 I haven't been working on this recently, but i might in the future If its not working for you then sorry. --------------------------------------...
[Undertale] Toriel (NOT PM/NPC)
Created by 2pack
ORIGINAL MODEL DONE BY Virn and Lewis Toriel from undertale, ported for gmod, for pictures/video purposes. She has really good faceposing, very flexible phys, and posable dress (with tools though). If you want to pose her dress, you gotta use any of these ...
[Undertale] Sans (NOT PM/NPC)
Created by LN95
ORIGINAL MODEL DONE BY SHATTERSTAG Sans from Undertale, ported to GMod, for posing/video purposes. He's got a (not very) wide set of flexes that emulate most of his expressions in the game. He's also not as chubby. Includes the "bad time" eyeball as a body...
[Undertale] Real Knife & Worn Dagger (No Laugh)
Created by Neo_Kesha
Version with laugh: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=789547498 Scripting and etc done by Neo_Kesha, wonderfull models by Horipu. Finally, no laugh on real knife! Thak you for rating my upload <3 That addon adds Real Knife and Worn Dag...
[Undertale] Real Knife & Worn Dagger
Created by Neo_Kesha
Scripting and etc done by Neo_Kesha, wonderfull models by Horipu. Version without laugh: https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1376860533 ALSO here laugh volume was reduced too :^) That addon adds Real Knife and Worn Dagger from Undertale....
[Undertale] Papyrus Abilities
Created by !Matt_
Yo guys ! Sorry for my bad English but I'm French. Today I share you a SWEP for Papyrus (Undertale no Underswap !) With this weapon, you can: - Throw White bones (Primary attack) - Throw Blue Bones (Secondary attack) - Create Blockbones (Reload) - Create B...
[Undertale] Mettaton
Created by DatSpygineer
Well I made a mettaton model. This model feachures fully working ragdoll,tons of skins and Mettaton's microphone! SFM version coming soon. Special thanks to GlaDOS Gaming - The GLaDOS Gamer and tetTris for the art work. Note:The fingers and buttons are onl...
[UNDERTALE] Gaster Blaster (READ DESC.)
Created by Mr. Motilek
READ DESCRIPTION! Model by Evangelos Undertale By Toby Fox Model have physics It's ported to Garry's Mod For users who wanted this on Garry's Mod. Source FilmMaker Model - https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=564894589...
[Undertale] G̸a̷ste̴r (Playermodel/Ragdoll/NPC)
Created by Viba
E̴n̸t̸r̸y̵ ̵N̷u̸m̸b̷e̶r̵ 1̵̛̬́́̾͌̀7̷̡̦̗̝̿́ T̴h̵e̸ ̶f̵a̵l̸l̸e̴n̸ ̷s̵c̴i̵e̷n̶t̴i̴s̵t̶ ̴h̴a̸s̴ ̵b̶e̴e̶n̷ ̵r̶e̵v̵i̷v̸e̸d̶ ̸f̸o̷r̵ ̴G̴a̸r̴r̷y̶'̶s̶ ̵M̸o̷d̶.̵ Models, textures, rigs by myself, ported for GMod usage by Charma! In this addon, you will have... - O̷n...
[MMD UnderTale] Frisk & Chara PlayerModel + NPC [REUPLOAD]
Created by Mynow
Hello everyone ! It's a REUPLOAD of Frisk and Chara Version A ! Thank you Crédits Model creator : Horipu https://i.imgur.com/6e7vWoD.png Thank you a lot of your help Other Models : Eren Jaeger : https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137798...
[MMD UnderTale] Frisk & Chara (Ver. C) PlayerModel + NPC [REUPLOAD]
Created by Mynow
Hello everyone ! It's a REUPLOAD of Frisk and Chara ! Thank you Crédits Model creator : Horipu https://i.imgur.com/6e7vWoD.png Thank you a lot of your help Other Models : Eren Jaeger : https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1377987690 Mikas...
Vocaloid Spartan Pack
Created by dewobedil
http://i.imgur.com/Mtpn5Dz.png ● Playermodels ● 14 NPCs Enemy & Friendly (Vocaloid) ● Ragdolls & Props ● Bonus models Armors (poseable using bones) ● Firstperson view arms ● Bodygroups (Hair, Ribbon, Helmet, Armors) ● Facepose / Eyepose (using faceposer to...
Yasuhiro Ultimate Pose
Created by MrXade
A pose made to reflect the character portrait of the laidback Yasuhiro Hagakure, as seen in his official artwork from Danganronpa. Like and Favorite if you enjoy it :D Model made by dewobedil...
[DELTARUNE] Card Castle
Created by Texasminer2000
Here it is! The long awaited (and time consumed) Deltarune Card Castle Map! This thing here is something that i'm really proud of mainly cause of the fact that I not only took my time to make this, but also the time to understand hammer more and improvise ...
[DELTARUNE] Ralsei's Manual
Created by Crazykiller94200
This is the manual Ralsei gives to Kris in DELTARUNE The textures were scrapped but extracted from the game You'll need the Advanced Bone Tool to turn the pages ...
[FNAF HW Ragdoll Pack] FNAF 1 Animatronics
Created by DravenJV01
=====| Includes |===== -Freddy (with Golden Freddy,Blacklight,and Phantom textures) -Bonnie (with Blacklight textures) -Chica (with Blacklight textures) -Foxy (with Hardmode and Phantom textures and also Battery Holder Bodygroup) =====| Useful Info. |=====...
[FNAF HW Ragdoll Pack] FNAF 3 Animatronics
Created by DravenJV01
=====| Includes |===== -Springtrap -Phantom Freddy (Custom) -Phantom Foxy (Custom) -Phantom Freddy texture for FNAF 1 Freddy (the texure used in HW for Phantom Freddy) -Phantom Foxy texture for FNAF 1 Foxy (the texure used in HW for Phantom Foxy) =====| Us...
[MMD UnderTale] Frisk & Chara (Ver. B) PlayerModel + NPC [REUPLOAD]
Created by Mynow
Hello everyone ! It's a REUPLOAD of Frisk and Chara Version B ! Thank you Crédits Model creator : Horipu https://i.imgur.com/6e7vWoD.png Thank you a lot of your help Other Models : Eren Jaeger : https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137798...
[FNAF HW Ragdoll Pack] FNAF 4 Animatronics (Part 1)
Created by DravenJV01
=====| Includes |===== -Nightmare Freddy -Nightmare Bonnie -Nightmare Chica -Nightmare Foxy -Nightmare Fredbear (Nightmare and translucent Nightmare skin and need part 2 for them) -Plushtrap -Freddles (all 3 in one model) -Nightmare Cupcake -Jack-O-Bonnie ...
[FNAF HW Ragdoll Pack] FNAF 4 Animatronics (Part 2)
Created by DravenJV01
=====| Includes |===== -Jack-O-Bonnie Textures -Jack-O-Chica Textures -Nightmarionne Textures -Nightmare Balloon Boy Textures -Pumpkin Textures -Nightmare Textures =====| Useful Info. |===== I recommend using Advanced Bone tool to move different bones: htt...
[FNAF HW Ragdoll Pack] FNAF SL Animatronics
Created by DravenJV01
=====| Includes |===== -Circus Baby -Funtime Freddy (with Bonnet texture and Bodygroup to get rid of BonBon/Bonnet) -Funtime Foxy (with Lolbit texture) -Ennard =====| Possible Models |===== -BidyBab -Minireena i will only do them if i feel like doing them ...
[FNAF OC] Materials
Created by DravenJV01
since i dont want to make your ocs, have these hecking materials =====| Includes |===== -FNAF 1 Eye Materials -FNAF 2 Withered Eye Materials -FNAF 3 Phantom Eye Material -FNAF 4 Nightmare Eye Materials -FNAF SL Funtime Eye Materials -Eye Glow Material -Bla...
[FNF] Friday Night Funkin Pack p1
Created by Ink Man
=====| Credits |===== Cally3D for modeling FNF models ninja_muffin99 for creating Friday Night Funkin' me for rags -Lou- for telling me to do it ================== if you see a broken face i couldn't fix sorry Beep bo bop ...
[FNF] Friday Night Funkin Pack p2
Created by Ink Man
=====| Credits |===== Cally3D for modeling FNF models ninja_muffin99 for creating Friday Night Funkin' me for rags -Lou- for telling me to do it ================== Bop bo beep ...
[FNF] Friday Night Funkin Pack p3
Created by Ink Man
=====| Credits |===== FNF models poppychips Sayge vaedskalw IzzrielTheXion Slushy NovaMaxi Jorge_SunSpirit -Lou- for minus skid and pump ninja_muffin99 for creating Friday Night Funkin' me for rags ================== Bop BO BEep GOOP PLOOP...
Rube Goldberg Masheen
Created by Halo 3: ODST
PRESS THE DOWN ARROW TO EXIMATE Skill is not a thing you had. But a thing that people don't. To use it you must know it. But what if no one knows it. Then it becomes a secrets, and no one knows secrets. Then what will you do? Don't ask me. - Mondo Man ...