Victoria 3

Victoria 3

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Reject Back Down

Description
Tired of repeatedly going to war with a country every five years because they keep backing down? This mod adds the option to reject a nation backing down from a diplomatic play.

About the mod

When an opponent backs down from a diplomatic play, you'll get an event that gives you the option to either accept it or reject it (if applicable--i.e., the opposing side still exists/isn't your subject).

If you accept it, you'll keep the primary war goal like normal and nothing else will happen.

If you reject it, you'll incur some infamy, the primary war goal will be returned to the target, and a new diplomatic play that is guaranteed to escalate to war will begin involving you and the target. In this new diplomatic play, both sides can add war goals, essentially allowing you to fight for as many war goals as your infamy/maneuver limit can handle.

As of now, only the player can reject backing down (to allow the AI to do it, need to code logic for doing so). As for compatibility, this mod should be compatible with most other mods as long as it's loaded near the end as it only overwrites one define and some on_actions.

Feel free to tell me about any questions/feedback/bugs/balance issues.

Technical details

This was implemented in a roundabout way using the game's behavior for containment plays. The new diplomatic play that is created after the initial one is resolved through backing down is technically "containment" (although the contain threat wargoal is removed before the war starts), and by changing a game define for containment play boldness, the AI will not back down from this new play. As a result of changing this define, the AI no longer backs down from any containment plays. Furthermore, other containment play defines cause the AI to be more likely to choose sides and mobilize more units in these new plays.

Changelog

Version 1.2.3
  • The bug where rejecting back down would puppet you should now be fixed.

Version 1.2.2
  • Added Polish localization (credit to @Avinus)

Version 1.2.1
  • Decreased the infamy hit upon rejecting a backing down from 10 to 5
  • Changed the mod thumbnail

Version 1.2.0
  • Revamped the logic for transferring the primary war goal back to the target upon rejecting a backing down (works for unincorporated states and subject transfer/liberation now)

See Steam changelog for older versions.
Popular Discussions View All (1)
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11 Mar, 2023 @ 2:01am
localization_german
NeonJ
42 Comments
Firepengu 26 Aug, 2024 @ 1:06pm 
Same as previous comment, rejecting also just made me a puppet of a random country...
asdfjkasfhjk 20 Jun, 2024 @ 5:34pm 
Doesn't work, it just turns me into a puppet for a random country
Kylen 7 Jul, 2023 @ 8:59am 
Does this still work?
MensIuguolo 26 Jan, 2023 @ 11:41pm 
YES
FINALLY
THANK YOU
NeonJ 26 Jan, 2023 @ 6:26am 
How can I add a manual translation for German in this mod. Do I need a spacial tool, or can I define German translation as .txt or in a existing document?
Hockeystop 22 Jan, 2023 @ 8:59am 
I am still seeing this release all puppets bug with your latest release as of 1/22/23. Might have to do with truces. If you co-belligerent someone who joins to help your primary war target and have a truce with them. Your puppets will as well. I think this is possibly the condition that causes this to happen. As this does not seem to happen when you add war goals to the primary and do not add war goals to secondary target who join that have a truce.
Mēkaru 30 Dec, 2022 @ 1:35pm 
Would it be ok to use this for an mp mod with accreditation?
Slyoutmonkey 28 Dec, 2022 @ 7:28pm 
You could make this even better by setting it to the minimum you are will to walk away with, so if there are 3 wargoals(2 added), you could demand one of the added and the original.
Thadom570 28 Dec, 2022 @ 1:50pm 
Reject Back Down is included in Victoria III Improvement Collection 維多利亞三世改進系列 (V1.1.0 12/26/22). With 88 working mods. I provide you with the order list you just copy and paste, No sorting manual work needed, enjoy!
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tenthousandimmortals 27 Dec, 2022 @ 1:05pm 
@Infectious_Alpha
I think this is like the bug that was addressed by the moder (Dec 3). When you reject a back down, you momentarily become a puppet. This only lasts a second (as this seems to be fixed) but does free all your puppets. I believe some people are facing this bug at the moment.