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Gigantism Plus

@Tortilladog that's some good feedback, thank you. The current development version of the mod should address these issues with how we've changed natural weapon generation, but we'll keep an eye out for them while we test, so we can ensure the impending update to the mod doesn't still have these issues present.

This mod is very cool; I have been greatly enjoying playing huge characters.


It does, however, have an issue; it completely breaks all three Troll Kings in Bethesda Susa.

For Jotun, Who Parts Limbs, it makes it so that he is unable to use his signature axes, both throwing and two-handed, since they don't have the gigantic modifier; this completely changes the dynamic of the fight, causing him to simply flail around with his fists instead of exhibiting his intended behavior. This could be fixed by giving all of his axes the gigantic modifier. Alternatively, the problem could be fixed for all enemies by making it so that any gear generated within gigantic enemies inventories gets the gigantic modifier applied to it.

For Fjorn-Kosef, Who Knits The Icy Lattice, it breaks his special Ice-encrusted fists by replacing them with Giant-Fists, changing the dynamic of the fight significantly due to the different damage type he now does.

Even worse, it replaces Haggabah, Who Plies The Umbral Path's adumbral hands, which do a unique damage type (umbral), and are one of the most interesting parts of his boss fight (especially once the player cancels his invisibility with night vision goggles and heightened hearing). Both hand-replacement problems could be solved by either making a gigantic version of each Troll King's Fists, like you do with some other natural weapons, or by making it so that these fists take priority over Gigantic Fists, overriding them.

@MaddRave not yet, but it's close. My next step is to gate off a bunch of the WIP stuff behind "pre-release" options and try and get the functioning portions pushed here. It's all a bit entangled, currently.

Greetings, I was readig the comments and was wondering if the Truekin compatibility update was added?

@Bradleyana777 that's definitely a bug. I'll make sure it's not in the current experimental version. I appreciate the feedback :D

I'm back, and after testing if it was another mod that I had preventing multiple limbs from working, it doesn't seem like a mod conflict is the issue. Even with all of my other mods disabled, and completing the Multi Weapon Fighting skill tree, and using the Flurry skill that I have only one "Gigantic Fists" to attack with. I still enjoy the different experience that this mod brings to my journey through Qud, but it is a little disappointing that I can't go the punchy route as I thought at first. Thanks for the mod!

@Atomsk I can have a look into it in the current build to make sure it doesn't persist, but the current version on the workshop is a bit outdated at the moment. I'll have to investigate what the Playable Golem Mod does that might be causing the issue. Unfortunately, when we next update this mod, it's going to need a new save.

There seems to be a compatibility issue with the Playable Golem mod. I'm unable to rapidly advance the Gigantism mutation while playing that start, I removed the mutation, added it again, and it ignores it in the popup. I tested, and it works fine on other characters/starts, initially and if added via wishes.

@Bradleyana777 that definitely shouldn't be the case. Do you happen to have the Single Weapon Fighting skill and have the activated ability for it toggled on? That would prevent you from attacking with more than a single limb except with Horns and, I think Stingers, which get to bypass the limitation.

If you don't have that skill toggled on, then you should be able to attack with multiple limbs. We haven't intentionally placed any limitations on attacking with Gigantic Fists.