@celestia(L)_kaligo - In the description, "Windstad" refers to Windstad Manor, one of the homes you can build with the official DLC Hearthfire (which focuses on player-constructed homes, baking new foods, and interacting with children you can adopt).

Using both the Unofficial Skyrim Hearthfire Patch and this mod will glitch Windstad Manor to behave incorrectly, likely due to misplacement of a bird's nest in the base DLC that the unofficial patch corrects the position of, which perhaps this mod touches as well.

What is a Skyrim Launcher? Or Skyrim Launcher Data?

Can these birds actually be interacted with or is it just aesthetics?

What in Nirn is A Windstad?

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This mod is compatible with Hearthfire, the original Birds and Flocks isn't. Both mods have been reported to conflict with Unofficial patches.

Is this incompatible with Unofficial Legendary Patch, or only just Hearthfire?

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? What he's saying is most people "need" the hearth fire patch and since this conflicts with he or should just delete it.

hey Catman, the other hes says to uninstall is his own mod that this one is basicly just a patch for as this one works with but requires hearthfire, but the other one does not.

Also all you have to do is uninstall this mod, don't go telling a mod author to remove their mod simply because it conflicts with a mod you're using.

Error, unless you're using mods that use the unofficial patch you don't need unofficial hearthfire patch, stop telling false information. If you're not using the that patch then this mod is completely fine, "liar"

since most people need the patch fixes
it is easier to get rid of your mod

Hello error, thanks for getting in touch. This mod is compatible with Hearthfire, but currently conflicts with The Unofficial Hearthfire Patch (as noted at the top of the mod description) and possibly also Real Wildlife. If you have either of those two installed, you can try temporarily disabling them and see if the compatibility issues with BaF go away.

Unfortunately, I am very busy with work these days and don't even have the Creation Kit installed anymore, so my time for working on mods is incredibly limited, though I do try to stay around on the forums to answer questions.

it is not compatable you liar
windstad manor is not appearing in a 2 year old forum post and i am having the exact same issue and i also have the same mod they also had problem with

Very unstable mod, apparently causes save file corruption. Stay away!

It is compatible with Hearthfire, but it isn't compatible with a handful of other Hearthfire mods, including the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch. Unfortunately I haven't had time lately to investigate further which other mods may conflict with it, but if you're not using the Unofficial Patch but you're still having issues, a modlist is always helpful.

Not compatible with Hearthfire

Anything as broad as an Unofficial Patch could potentially affect this mod, but I don't know for a fact if that particular patch interacts with it.

Does the Unofficial Legendary Edition Patch also affect this?

Great mod :P

Have 100 active mods...It would take forever to select each one to rename it, not really but just to copy the name of the text, or type them all out then copy and paste them.. I tried to copy the whole mod list in the data file but apparently it won't copy over..

Issues with houses not showing up even when using the Hearthfire Edition of Birds and Flocks is not related to the mod itself. (This mod was created in response to the Hearthfire expansion, to fix issues with disappearing homes.) This issue is apparently related to conflicts with other mods and this mod. From previous experience, it looks like using this mod in conjunction with the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch for Skyrim causes manors not to appear.

It is likely that there are other mods out there with which this mod is not compatible as well.

If you are having issues, please take a moment to post your mod lists so I can see what you're using, and maybe try to narrow it down.

dafuq whats up with the windstad manor bug? hasnt this bug been around since years ago? and it's still not fixed?

Windstad Manor will not appear when building, I unistalled the mod and it will let me build the house but u can seen through the walls in the main building from the inside. Also once in the house i cant always get out... Tried old saves and all but, it didn't help. Could be another mod conflict with the manor too. Ganna try uninstalling hearthfire.esm save then reinstall..Just thought id give u a heads up.. otherwise great mod...Thanks and have a kick'n it day out there...

Erebus, I'll post updates here as I can find them. I am going to update my description to explain that this mod doesn't work with Unofficial Hearthfire Patch for now.

I would help you, but I've never used Creation Kit. TESV Editor was far too complex for me. Let me know if you want any help with testing or anything. :)

Also let me know if you manage to get your mod working with Unnoficial Hearthfire Patch.

Deatsback, thank you very much! I do not use the unofficial patch so I never had the chance to test it! I may try to see if I can get in touch with the creators of the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch and see if they can integrate compatibility with my mod into their mod, so we can make them both work together.

For any user who has the Creation Kit installed, you may be able to make the mods work together by opening Hearthfire.esm (and .esp, if it has one, I don't remember) the Unofficial Hearthfire Patch, and BirdsHF all together in the Creation Kit, and resaving them as a new mod or saving over the Hearthfire Patch. I HAVE NOT VERIFIED THIS so I cannot promise it will work (or that it won't cause further issues) but opening Hearthfire and Birds and Flocks together and re-saving it as BirdsHF is how I originally made the mod compatible with Hearthfire to begin with. Try it at your own risk, or else wait and see if the Unofficial Patch makers will help us out.

Well, partially solved...Good luck.

Oh damn, yeah he's right. I've got 130 mods on right now and I just disabled the Unnoficial Hearthfire Patch and it worked. Props to you for doing something very simple I couldn't be bothered doing! xD

Anyway I guess that solves it. Either have Unnoficial Hearthfire Patch enabled and have your mod not work, or have it disabled and have your mod work.

Problem solved.

Hello Kazoomie, I hope this will help you a bit with Windstad Manor not to show up when being built.

This is also my load order.
Here's a list of my plugins:
Skyrim
Update
Unofficial Skyrim Patch
Dawnguard
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
Hearthfire Patch
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
Dragonborn Patch
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
HighResTexturePack01
HighResTexturePack02
HighResTexturePack03
dD - Enhanced Blood Main
barenziahquestmarkers
SkyUI
birdshf
sos - the wilds
sos - civilization
sos - the dungeons
wildlife_overhual
hqsnow
dd - realistic ragdoll force

I also have SKSE installed.
I can tell you SKSE doesn't affect your mod in any way. I was able to see Windstad Manor with and w/o SKSE installed. The only thing I had to do was disable Unofficial Hearthfire Patch. It seems that Unofficial Hearthfire Patch and birdshf don't work well together. As of now I'm able to see Windstad Manor with all my plugins except Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.

It's this mod plus something else going on that isn't clear yet. I have only ever had a handful of reports since the mod came out of this manor still not showing up, and I have never found out what they all had in common. I really appreciate all the effort you've put into trying to help me figure out what's going on here, but I am out of ideas except to have you disable EVERYTHING else including SKSE and the unofficial patches, but that will run into more trouble than it's worth.

If/when I ever have time to work on the mod, I will try to replicate the bug using the information you've given me. Again, my apologies for all the headache you and anyone else have experienced because of whatever is going on here.

Alright, I finally got around to doing it. So I disabled every modification except S.K.SE and the unnoficial patches (I just couldn't really be bothered...Also, I figure they would of helped to prevent it. And no offense, but I doubt that somebody would disable SKSE or unnoficial patches just to get one mod to work.) and enabled Birds and Flocks HF, but the manor still doesn't show.

I loaded a save where I hadn't previously bought Winstad Manor. Re-bought it, fast traveled to a nearby location, and tried building the foundation. It still doesn't show. So I guess it is your mod, and not a conflict?...

If the game is crashing on launch you might try deleting the SkyrimPrefs file from My Documents/My Games/Skyrim. (Or move it to a new folder if it has changes you want to revert to later.)

Well, I tried doing what you said, but my game just crashes when I launch it. I had the same problem and I fixed it by disabling Steam Cloud Sync. I'm visiting relatives and using a different computer at the moment so I'll give it another go in a few days, I'll let you know.

I'd prefer if you did disable those, just to be sure.

Sure, I'd be happy to do that some time tomorrow. Do you want me to disable SKSE (1.7.3) and the Unofficial patches? They're technically mods, so not sure if you want me to enable or disable those.

I am sorry the mod isn't working for you, Lord. My best guess at this time is that when Birds and Flocks HF is run with another mod that affects the same world space, the game gets broken when it is saved and then both mods have to be disabled.

The best way to test this theory, for anybody who has time (unfortunately I don't have much these days), would be to disable ALL mods except Birds and Flocks Hearthfire Edition, and then buy the land, make sure the house shows up, then enable Real Wildlilfe and go see if the house is still there. If not, save the game, then disable one mod or the other and verify it still doesn't show up.

Again, Lord thanks for your info and my apologies for the difficulties.

No, I tried enabling one or the other mod. (BirdsHF and Real Wilflide) and it wouldn't work. Some people have issues with enhanced distant terrain, but I had no problems. I haven't checked other houses because I don't think I have them. But I do know Winstad Manor can't be seen or interacted with at all with either mod active.

So I tried getting the correct mod load order just now, and failed. xD The Skyrim Launcher data files, LOOT, and Mod Organizer all show a different load order. Even though I sort all of them with LOOT...So I'm not going to bother trying to get it sorted out unless you really need it, or if you have any ideas on how to fix it.

And nope, I don't have Creation Kit installed. Mod Organizer, LOOT, SKSE 1.7.3, and TES5Editor (don't use it, too complicated) is what I have related to Skyrim.

Thanks for the info. I noticed Real Wildlife and BirdsHF on your list, and you mentioned previously after disabling BOTH mods, the house appears. Are you able to confirm that Hearthfire is or is not broken when just one or the other mod is active when you load the game up? And do you have the Creation Kit for Skyrim?

I was just about to go to bed (2AM here) but figured I'd quickly do it. This may be a bit wrong because I don't use Mod Organizer much. Your mod actually isn't even in that load order list and I suppose you probably want it there! So I'll make a proper one tomorrow when I'm not so tired, but for now here's my load order: http://pastebin.com/H3AWTgvb

Don't work/analyze too much off this load order, I'm not so sure it's totally correct. For example, I'm pretty sure I'm not using contrastboost.esp. As I said, I'll post a more accurate load order tomorrow.

Lord, any mod that affects a worldspace used by Hearthfire will conflict unless it is made compatible. This mod was made compatible with Hearthfire when it came out, but something else is up. I keep getting scattered reports from users who say it still isn't working, so I'd like if you'd post your modlist. Thank you for offering to do something constructive, as opposed to taking the low road like T1motee.

Oh, and also I saw that someone said the reason that your mod conflicts with the Hearthfire house is: There's a flock that spawns above the house.

I've got no idea that's correct or not, just thought I'd mention it.

Hey, since people on multiple forums have all complained about your or other people's mods breaking Hearthfire in some way, thought I'd contribute. So for me, the problem was that the Morthal House called Windstad Manor wouldn't appear at all. After I disabled "Real Wildlife" and this mod, it worked. I had to disable both mods. For some people it seems to be "enhanced distant terrain" but for me it was fine to leave it on. I'll give you my load order if you like.

thanks foir breaking hearthfire

You're Welcome :)

Okay, well thank you anyway for posting the info.

I can't verify that at the moment I'm afraid. My current charater has built all three houses now so until I start a new character I can't test it. I will do it eventually unless somebody here is at the point of building the Morthal home and can test it without me having to level a new toon

Loin, thank you for investigating this! Did you try running the Hearthfire Birds and Flocks mod to verify it works as long as Distant Detail is disabled?