Yeah, I never got around to it as I uninstalled the modding application I used a year or more ago. It sounds like you know what you are talking about though! If I ever reinstall the modding application I will absolutely try to apply your proposed solution to this issue.

If you want to do a quick update, here's the fix:
Under db\technology_nodes_tables, find the table
ikko_main_military_node_018_teppo_mastery and set the value of "tier" to 0. That's it.
The technology availability is there for the Otomo as well, but it looks broken. I simply wont use the mod when playing Otomo.

4 years later still no fix for ikko ikki xd I'll look into it

Not a bad idea, it's probably doable!

hey was wondering if you could make a mod like this but it also allows turn one research for powder maker, and seige enginer workshop

Thank you for your impressive work ! I'm new making mods and I'm wondering why I can't play matchlock earlier by changing building_level_required_technology_junctions and unit_required_technology_junctions from teppo_mastery into heaven_and_sea .It seems okay but doesn't work ( actually you can see matchlock is avilable in both heaven_and_sea and teppo_mastery in tech tree, but nothing changed except descreption ). I looked up many mods for help but I failed I would appreciate it a lot if you may help me how to do right.

I worked just like this link, but neither seems effective https://steamhost.cn/steamcommunity_com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1589637264
（non native Eng speaker, sorry for language mistakes ）

the research mechanic is kinda bad so thanks

range matchlock unit still 100? i hope you make long range for them

This doesn't work for Otomo, as they still need the powder maker to make Matchlock Ashigaru

Absolutely! Feel free to use the idea as you please

If you want, you can credit me for the "original" idea. You don't have to though

Hey, can I use your tech placement idea to make My own more conservative version of Early Matchlock?

I'll check it out. Thanks man, I'll see what I can do if and when I get time

It requires the research via vanilla-ish route, I have uploaded the screenshot into my account

Interesting!! @Blackwatch, does it require researching it via the vanilla route? Or does it disappear entirely?

Can't use the tech by Ikko Ikki, they have separate tree apparently

*Easy Matchkock Ashigaru*

I can attempt to rework it to work for the ships and Matchlock Samurai, if it makes this mod better. It functions as the mod name implies.

Very clever, good thinking. :)

Well, was thinking that with this mod I could have some matchlock at T15/20 so I researched this tech then made the tier 1 gunpowder building to create it. Nope, can't. Got to research "fire attack" tech then I can have gunpowder tier 2 building and so create those matchlocks. Well, that's kinda useless then

lol thats to much cheating for me XD....
Cheats: Have everything one tern cheat
and diplomecy cheat

easy win i guess

well，that's...ALSOME,the Odas can rule Japan easier.

Thank you though :)

*the

Yeah, I tried removing the technology requirement but as we can borh agree, that effort was in vain. This workaround seems to be thw only way to do it, unless you know another way

Thats...CLEVER actually. The main problem plaguing modders is that Matchlocks are too far down the tech tree, but the tech to unit junction cannot be deleted by modding. Moving the tech is really smart.