Steam Community :: Stop Suppressing The Lost AI Fix

Juravis [author] 2 Feb, 2024 @ 7:35pm

I *believe* from memory i tried and failed. It's been a while. I think it's because it's an AOE also right?

Bardagh 2 Feb, 2024 @ 5:40pm

Would you please also make them ineligible targets for poison spit?

Juravis [author] 5 Apr, 2023 @ 1:32pm

It's hard to say with certainty without seeing the code. Ask the mod authors of those other mods if they change AI suppression behavior and if they use the original code, it will work.

zin 5 Apr, 2023 @ 1:20pm

Oh, okay. I assume you shouldn’t use this with A Better ADVENT: WotC either (without LWotC) – or?

Juravis [author] 3 Apr, 2023 @ 12:15pm

I dont know but LWOTC has its own AI so dont use it

zin 3 Apr, 2023 @ 3:39am

Does this work with LWotC?

Lord bowser 8 Feb, 2023 @ 6:36pm

but its funny to see them use/ waste stuff on them and its kinda helpfull anyway

Juravis [author] 27 Aug, 2019 @ 9:28pm

I saw a case in my AI where a Trooper suppressed a flanked unit. I didnt like it and its not supposed to happen, so i have explicitly scored out of valid suppression checks any unit that is considered flanked. There is almost always 99.9% a better option than suppressing a flanked target.

Exodus 19 Dec, 2017 @ 10:18pm

does this work with ABA

Juravis [author] 13 Oct, 2017 @ 3:25pm

You should use this, its not included in the packs.

Malek Deneith 13 Oct, 2017 @ 3:20pm

Can/Should this mod be used with your Future Complete and Blessings of the Elders AI packs, or do those already include this fix?

Juravis [author] 10 Oct, 2017 @ 11:33am

Priests will no longer Stasis The Lost.

Swgmaster11 1 Oct, 2017 @ 8:51am

#Lostlivesmatter

Juravis [author] 30 Sep, 2017 @ 8:17am

Thats normal otherwise the beacon would be useless

Vaeringjar 30 Sep, 2017 @ 3:56am

I've seen Spectres trying to make the robocopy thingy on mimic beacons XD

Juravis [author] 29 Sep, 2017 @ 7:32pm

Forgot that there were 2 ways the AI checks for suppression, i patched the Target Pick By Aim score also. MEC should stop suppressing the lost entirely.

Brakkey Gurdy I 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:34pm

I'd ask to be walked through it, but I never could figure out how to make the SDK work, and I have a midterm coming up.

Juravis [author] 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:16pm

It's not hard, but i try to keep this mod simple with one liners. This is not an AI overhaul.

Also i cant control who the AI attacks from a bind perspective. The team code is a mess and im not delving into that.

Vortex ♀ Pixalation 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:16pm

I know how to do it, it is a pain, not exactly hard, but a pain

Brakkey Gurdy I 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:15pm

Just an aside, how big would it be giving the vipers their own routine anyway?

Vaeringjar 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:15pm

There's also the bug where if a XCom is bound by a viper, lost will attack the XCom and not the viper... even though it makes no sense at all... XD

Brakkey Gurdy I 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:10pm

The first is good enough for now.

Juravis [author] 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:05pm

I can fix Get Over Here but Bind uses the generic melee calc. If I fix that, it will break anyone using Potential Melee Targeting including Berserkers. I'm afraid this is not quick-fixable. It would require giving Vipers their own targeting routine.

Brakkey Gurdy I 28 Sep, 2017 @ 1:04pm

While I remember, the lancers could benefit too from learning not to try and teach the Lost to respect their authority... though their current behavior is perfectly lore adherent, given how drugged up they are.

Juravis [author] 28 Sep, 2017 @ 12:59pm

SIGH. One more for the fix list, on it.

Brakkey Gurdy I 28 Sep, 2017 @ 12:56pm

Also, could someone stop the vipers constricting the Lost?

Juravis [author] 28 Sep, 2017 @ 6:57am

Havent checked. Ask DerBK to integrate it. Its 2 lines.

Cpt_Chaos 28 Sep, 2017 @ 6:32am

Is this compatible with other mods that modify AI like for example A Better Advent?

PatientLandBeaver 26 Sep, 2017 @ 2:16pm

Thanks for this mod fix. And Firaxis, come on, all these little issues certainly add up. Fix your game!

Juravis [author] 26 Sep, 2017 @ 9:14am

Done

Vaeringjar 26 Sep, 2017 @ 9:13am

awesome

Juravis [author] 26 Sep, 2017 @ 9:10am

Most certainly. On it.

Vaeringjar 26 Sep, 2017 @ 9:08am

Can officers marking lost also be fixed?

Rasaborn 26 Sep, 2017 @ 9:06am

your probs right. aint forcing him to do it. and serius mods do seem to be his speciality :D

Vortex ♀ Pixalation 26 Sep, 2017 @ 7:24am

I don’t know about Avenger but I find joke mods to be way too much work

Rasaborn 26 Sep, 2017 @ 7:08am

you should make a joke mod that makes the Rulers take ten actions instead of just one :D

Juravis [author] 26 Sep, 2017 @ 6:54am

I was going too at first, and i will, but its much much more complex. Youd have to make a list of melee units then compare the target template name to that list one by one, then invalidate the target. Thats a solid hour. This one took me 30 seconds.

Conefed 26 Sep, 2017 @ 5:44am

Much love ADVENT Avenger

Vortex ♀ Pixalation 26 Sep, 2017 @ 5:00am

Need to apply this to melee too lol

aku47 26 Sep, 2017 @ 12:03am

@ADVENT Avenger
You're fixes so far have been great already! Firaxis Hire this Man!

Juravis [author] 25 Sep, 2017 @ 10:44pm

Sometimes i just want to singlehandedly overhaul the entire game AI of everything. But im one man, with a job, and a full AI overhaul is like 400 hours (from scratch, no reuse of Firaxis functions)

aku47 25 Sep, 2017 @ 10:19pm

@Nilaru @ADVENT Avenger
Pratal Mox Nearly bled to death on a retaliation mission because of resistance members ignoring the warlock mind controlling him and going to town.

The resistance members are in need of an overhaul though. The civies never take cover and the fighters never overwatch when they have no active targets.

Juravis [author] 25 Sep, 2017 @ 10:04pm

Wasnt aware of that. That's hilarious.